To date, almost all 82 tested
MacTighernans
that
know their origins
come from
this
small area in
NW Ireland shown in green on the map on the
left, 450 square miles more
or less with
the three exceptions, Gus
and Michael (NJ) whose verbal family history states that their line is
from
Scotland and David (CN)'s verbal family history states that
his family is from the Kilarney Lakes, Co Kerry area of Ireland. Based
on
the DNA study at this point in time it appears that the origins of most
MacTighernans, 54 out of 82 are in Co Leitrim. The Google earth
satellite image
that marks the townland origin of each MacTighernan if known is at this
site:
http://mctiernan.com/McTmaps.htm
While Leitrim is one county, it is historically
divided into North
and
South Leitrim with Lough Allen being the dividing line. In South
Leitrim from the mid 1500s, the Irish Clan way of life was under
serious threat. An increasingly powerful English administration
was
slowly but surely extending its influence and dominion. In a
visit to
Mohill in 1540, the Saxons destroyed the monastery and beheaded the
guardian and several of the friars. By 1590, the English
government forces were actively routing the local clans. All
MacTighernans in the DNA test from Leitrim come from north Leitrim with
the
exceptions of Ed
(NJ), [Scott (CO), Cathal, Sean-SF], Jim III and Charles whose
family
origins are in
South
Leitrim.
Philip
O'Rorke, The
O'Ruairc of Bréifne whose family were the past kings of
Drumahaire in Co Leitrim has taken the DNA test. The O'Rorke DNA
web site is http://www.familytreedna.com/public/roark/.
The
O'Conor Don,
Cathal Crovderg O'Conor, whose ancestors
were
the past high kings of all of Ireland has has also taken the DNA test.
So far we do not genetically relate to either one. With the tests
completed so far we 82 MacTighernans fall
into 16 separate, distinct and unrelated genetic groups.
Genetic
diversity equals age. The more diverse genetic make up
of a population in a specific area, the older it is. In all the world,
Africa has
the most diverse genetic
makeup. Ethiopia, the Horn of Africa has the most genetic
diversity in all of Africa which
is where the first humans gathered to exit to populate the rest of the
world.
Western
Europe including Ireland has the least diverse genetic population of
all areas on
earth. So in Africa the population moved and in western Europe
they
did not, genetically speaking. The Genographic project sponsored
by Nationalgeographic and IBM goes
into this in great detail https://www3.nationalgeographic.com/genographic/index.html
Use my kit number to see the display, FWRFL845CH
There is no way to know for certain what the
total
number is
for distinct genetically separate MacTighernans on a worldwide
basis. At this time it would be a guess to say how many of us there
would be
worldwide. The below chart
gives a reasonable approximation as to the individual MacTighernan
density
in Ireland and the
main 4 countries of immigration as of 2004.
In 1659 only 4275 people lived in all of Co Leitrim of which MacTighernans were 38, 26 in north Leitrim and 12 in south Leitrim
| How many MacTighernans are there now ? As of 2004 the approximate total of individuals by country with surname spellings of McTiernan, MacTiernan, McTernan. It is safe to say that the real total of separate MacTighernan families is less than these numbers These numbers exclude the DNA tester and their related family members if known |
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| Ireland |
122 |
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| American
population by state |
NY |
82 |
|
| NJ |
26 |
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| FL |
20 |
||
| |
MA |
18 |
|
| PA |
15 |
||
| CA |
15 |
||
| IL |
9 |
||
| CT |
7 |
||
| OH |
6 |
||
| VA |
6 |
||
| MD |
5 |
||
| GA |
3 |
||
| CO |
3 |
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| WA |
3 |
||
| LA |
2 |
||
| one each in RI,
WY, AZ, MO, KA,
ME, DE |
7 |
||
| American Total |
227 |
||
| UK, including England,
Wales,
Scotland & N. Ireland |
141 |
||
| Canada |
32 |
||
| Australia |
43 |
||
| Gross total of
individuals with our
surnames, testers not included |
565 |
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In the 11th century two MacTighernan families were noted in
Irish history as chiefs, Lord McTernan of Tullyhunco, Co Cavan and the
McTernans of Co Fermanagh. Their lines may well be extent at this
point in time. In recent history, at least since the famine years, most
of the MacTighernans in Ireland are found in Co Sligo and Co
Leitrim. The historical family origins of the majority of the DNA
testers are in Co
Leitrim. How we might connect to them or to each
other
is very
difficult to prove as written records in Ireland usually start at
around
the 1850s going no further back in time.
| Unconnected McTernan Ancestors | Townland of Origin | County | Barony | Civil parish | Catholic parish |
Dioceses | P L U | Probate District |
DNA Group |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| McTernans of Rockfield |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Ballina |
|
| McTernans
|
Fermanagh |
? |
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| McTernans of Tullyhunco |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Cavan |
|
Leet's
Directory (1812-1814) listed three McTernan 'seats' or residences,
namely that of Con at Rockfield
[noted above], James of Leonagh and
Hugh [ T group baseline ] at Mount Allen in Co Roscommon whose family
was originally from
Sweetwood townland in Co Leitrim.This info can be complex so please read the headers and footers in all the following grids to make it easier to understand
The 16 separate, distinct and
different
MacTighernan DNA groups are labeled
with the
letter T which is
just a naming convention as each of the DNA groups are in all
ways equal, none being more
pure than the other.
| The genetic and
geographic spread of the 82 MacTighernan testers 64 of the 82 know their county of origin, 54 of the 82 know their townland |
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| MacTighernan
Testers County of Origin |
Testers
that know their townland of origin |
Tester's country at time of test |
Tester's continent |
Testers |
All
identified MacTighernans to date |
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| DNA Group |
Leitrim |
Sligo |
Ros- common |
Cavan |
Scot- land |
Unknown |
Total |
Leitrim |
46 |
America | North America |
36 |
105 |
||
| T |
18 |
1 |
1 |
6 |
26 |
Sligo |
4 |
Ireland | Europe |
18 |
27 |
||||
| Ta |
2 |
1 |
3 |
Roscommon |
England | Europe | 14 |
39 |
|||||||
| Tb |
1 |
1 |
Cavan |
2 |
Canada | North America |
6 |
9 |
|||||||
| Tc |
1 |
1 |
Kerry | 1 |
Australia | Oceania | 2 |
9 |
|||||||
| Td |
1 |
1 |
Scotland | Indonesia | Asia | 1 |
1 |
||||||||
| Te |
1 |
1 |
Unknown | 29 | Zimbabwe | Africa | 1 |
1 |
|||||||
| Tf |
1 |
1 |
Iraq | Asia | 1 |
1 |
|||||||||
| T3 |
10 |
3 |
1 |
1 |
15 |
Northern Ireland | Europe | 2 |
2 |
||||||
| T3a |
2 |
1 |
3 |
Scotland | Europe | 1 |
10 |
||||||||
| T3b |
1 |
1 |
Japan | Asia | 1 |
||||||||||
| T3c |
1 |
1 |
2 |
Norway | Europe | 1 |
|||||||||
| T3d |
4 |
4 |
Spain | Europe | 2 |
||||||||||
| T3e | 1 |
1 |
Switzrland |
Europe |
1 |
||||||||||
| T4 |
1 |
1 |
New Zealand | Oceania | 3 |
||||||||||
| T2 |
12 |
1 |
6 |
19 |
|||||||||||
| T2a |
2 |
2 |
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| Current Total |
55 |
4 |
3 |
2 |
18 |
82 |
Total |
82 | 10 |
5 |
82 |
212 | |||
| TBR | 1 |
2 |
3 |
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| in
process |
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The goal is to map the genetic and
geographic
profil of
all MacTighernans, our origins and connections.
| Listed below are the possible centers of
origin for each
MacTighernan in the 16 different DNA
groups if known |
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| 16
distinct
MacTighernan DNA Group baselines |
Looking solely
at baselines, possible townland of origin for each of the 16 DNA Groups |
Total
# in each group |
The Baselines, Perfect 25 / 25 matches in their group |
|
| 1 |
T
|
Leonagh townland or
Tullynacross
townland or Moneenatieve or Beagh / Killavoggy townland or Sweetwood,
Co Leitrim or
Killinagh Parish, Co Cavan |
26 |
11 |
| 2 |
T a |
Derrinvoher
or Derrinweer townland, Co Leitrim |
3 |
3 |
| 3 |
T b |
Feenagh townland, Co
Leitrim |
1 |
|
| 4 |
T c |
Unknown |
1 |
|
| 5 |
T d |
Gortermone,
Killarga, Drumahaire, Co Leitrim |
1 |
|
| 6 |
T e |
Unknown | 1 |
|
| 7 |
T f |
Unknown |
1 |
|
| 8 |
T 2 |
Townlands of Corglancy, Greaghnafarna in Killanummery parish, Bargowla, or Drumahaire (T) or Oughteragh parish, Manorhamilton, Co Leitrim or Co Sligo | 19 |
10 |
| 9 |
T
2 a |
Killaunmmery,
Co Leitrim |
2 |
2 |
| 10 |
T
3 |
Geevagh Parish or townland of Tap both in Co Sligo or Kilcoosy or Cleenaghoo in Co Leitrim | 15 |
9 |
| 11 |
T
3 a |
Corratawy townland or Gortermone
townland,
Killarga parish, Co Leitrim |
3 |
3 |
| 12 |
T 3 b |
Unknown or Scotland ? | 1 |
|
| 13 |
T 3 c |
Tulcon townland,
Co Leitrim or Gubveeney, Co Cavan |
2 |
|
| 14 |
T 3 d |
Gleneige or
Moneyduff,
Co Leitrim |
4 |
2 |
| 15 |
T 3 e |
Drumshanbo parish, Co Leitrim | 1 |
|
| 16 |
T 4 |
Unknown |
1 |
|
| Total
MacTighernan tests completed |
82
|
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| MacTighernan test in process at the lab: | ||||
| DNA Test TBR = To Be Returned: JohnT (190362), Joe-NY (201475) & Sam (210637) | 3 |
|||
| The
O'Rorke test and Cathal
Crovderg O'Conor test completed |
2 |
|||
The ancestors of the two McTernan families
from Leonagh in Co Leitrim, Rory's
from Sweetwood in Co Leitrim & Mountallen,
Relationship of the DNA Groups to each other: The T and T3 Group baselines only have 16 out of 25 DYS markers that match. More than 1/3 of the markers do not match resulting in a 9 loci pattern mutation event difference. The T2 Group baseline has an 8 loci difference to the baselines of both the T Group and the T3 Group. Philip O'Rorke, The O'Ruairc of Bréifne has a 9 loci mutation event difference with the baselines of the T and the T2 Groups but only a 7 loci mutation event difference with the T3 Group baseline. The O'Conor Don has a 21 / 25 match to the T3a baseline. If you are in one DNA group you do not genetically relate to any other MacTighernan in any other DNA Group.
| Those in
the
baselines for each of the 16 separate MacTighernan DNA
groups
are a
perfect
25 / 25 genetic match to each other in their group |
|||
| DNA Group |
Total # in Group |
#
in Baseline Group |
Those
MacTighernans with a perfect match in their specific DNA group forming
their group baseline are
below, excludes The O'Ruairc of Bréifne. & The O'Connor Don 8 of the 16 DNA groups have only one individual so far |
| T |
26 |
11 |
Mark
(673), Michael (CN)
(3436), Martin (3713), Rory (1029), Thomas (CA) (17363), John
(ST)
(49265), Tony
(106135), John-P (134141), John-Rev (149591), Hugh-K C. McKiernan (158701) & Gerard (170331) |
| T
a |
3 |
3 |
Scott (AU) (639), Adrian (106134) & Richard (135598) |
| T
b |
1 |
1 |
John
(USA)
(635) |
| T c |
1 |
1 |
Sgt.
Chris McTurnan (31886) |
| T d |
1 |
1 |
John Frank (117676) |
| T e |
1 |
1 |
Myles (187076) |
| T f |
1 |
1 |
Colin (192960) |
| T 2 |
19 |
10 |
Geoffrey
(3435), Bernie
(2145), Max
(71428), Eugene
(128783), Jim-SP
(155834), KevinM
(170332), Mike-PA
(175937), Mike-Eng (172135), Jerry (251863) & Barry (201474) |
| T
2 a |
2 |
2 |
Patsy (121178) & Nigel (261247) |
| T 3 |
15 |
9 |
Leo
(21151),
Eoghan (636), Jim
(NJ) (1010), Scott (CO) (5451), Jim (MA) (9497), John W (31885), Cathal
(117675), Sean-SF (135597) & Edwin (201472) |
| T 3 a |
3 |
3 |
David (NJ) (2392), John C. (637) & Cathal-NI (243949) |
| T 3 b |
1 |
1 |
Gus (8724) |
| T 3 c |
2 |
Ed (NJ) (8723) & Kevin-CN (171485) | |
| T 3 d |
4 |
2 |
Sean (128774) & Paul-NI (180027) |
| T 3 e |
1 |
1 |
Peter (138619) |
| T 4 |
1 |
1 |
Warren (251864) |
| sub
total |
82 |
completed test |
|
|
in
process at lab
|
|
||
| TBR
= to be returned |
3 |
JohnT (190362), Joe-NY
(201475) & Sam (210637)
|
|
| Total |
85 |
||
The McTiernans haven't held tenaciously to their family name over centuries sometimes under duress if did not mean something of real value to them. A legitimacy to their culture and land that stretched back into the distant past to an ancestral line. The Scribe O' Clery in his genealogies refers to two families of Mc Tiernans of North Leitrim, the Clann Tiarnain Bunnaidhe that is the McTiernans of the Bonnet (Dromahair) and the Clann Tiarnain na Caraha or the McTiernans of Corry (between Drumkerrin and Lough Allen) could this explain at least two of the main groups? There is also a possibility that some of those in groups of their own represent the last survivors of the true McTiernan lineage and that the 3 main groups are very successful interlopers? courtesy of Austin McTiernan.
How we match, 25
is perfect match--the T, Ta,
Tb,
Tc, Td, Te & Tf Groups
How 34 of 82 MacTighernans in 7 of the 16 DNA
Groups match each other based
on mutation event
differences
Group
-->
26 in the T Group
3 in Ta
Tb
Tc
Td
Te
Tf
DNA
Group
Individual
Mark,
Martin,
Michael (CN),
Thomas (CA),
Rory, Tony, John-P,
John (ST), Gerard,
John-Rev & Hugh-K
Jim
(CA)
Jim-
SGL
John
-con
Mike
-UK
David
(CN)
& +
Bob
(CN)
Douglas
+
Mick
Sean
-sol
& Noel
Michael
(NJ)
Larry
Gene
Scott
(AU),
Richard
&
Adrian
(USA)
Sgt.
ChrisJohn
Frank
Myles
Colin
Philip
O'Rorke
Cathal
Crovderg O'Conor
Mark, Martin,
Michael (CN),
Rory, Tony, Gerard,
Thomas (CA),
John (ST), John-P,
John-Rev & Hugh-K
24
24
24
24
23
23
23
23
22
22
21
18
18
22
14
T
Michael
24
NA
23
23
23
23
23
23
22
22
22
22
22
21
21
20
20
19
19
21
15
10
T+1
Jim
(CA)
24
23
NA
23
23
23
23
23
22
22
22
22
22
21
21
20
22
19
19
21
17
14
T+1
Jim
- SGL
24
23
23
NA
25
25
23
23
22
22
24
22
22
21
21
20
20
17
17
21
15
8
T+1
Tom
24
23
23
25
NA
25
23
23
22
22
24
22
22
21
21
20
20
17
17
21
15
11
T+1
John-con
24
23
23
25
25
NA
23
23
22
22
24
22
22
21
21
20
20
17
17
21
15
11
T+1
Mike-UK
24
23
23
23
23
23
NA
23
22
22
22
22
22
21
21
20
20
19
19
23
15
11
T+1
David
(CN) +
& Bob (CN) +
24
23
23
23
23
23
23
NA
24
22
24
24
22
21
21
20
22
19
17
21
17
13
T+1
Douglas
(CN) +
23
22
22
22
22
22
22
24
NA
21
23
23
23
20
21
20
23
18
17
20
17
13
T+2
Mick
23
22
22
22
22
22
22
22
21
NA
21
21
21
20
20
19
19
16
16
20
14
12
T+2
Sean-sol & Noel
23
22
22
24
24
24
22
24
23
21
NA
23
21
20
20
19
21
18
16
20
16
12
T+2
Michael
(NJ)
23
22
22
22
22
22
22
24
23
21
23
NA
21
20
20
19
21
18
16
20
16
13
T+2
Larry
23
22
22
22
22
22
22
22
23
21
21
21
NA
20
21
20
21
16
17
20
17
13
T+2
Gene
22
21
21
21
21
21
21
21
20
20
20
20
20
NA
19
18
18
15
15
19
13
12
T+3
Scott
(AU),
Richard & Adrian
22
21
21
21
21
21
21
21
21
20
20
20
21
19
25
20
19
15
17
19
15
11
Ta
John
(USA)
21
20
20
20
20
20
20
20
20
19
19
19
20
18
20
25
19
16
16
22
14
11
Tb
Sgt.
Chris
21
20
22
20
20
20
20
22
23
19
21
21
21
10
19
18
25
18
17
18
19
13
Tc
John
Frank
18
19
19
17
17
17
19
19
18
16
18
18
16
15
15
16
18
25
21
17
15
11
Td
Myles
18
19
19
17
17
17
19
17
17
16
16
16
17
15
17
16
17
21
25
17
15
11
Te
Colin
22
21
21
21
21
21
23
21
20
20
20
20
20
19
19
22
18
17
17
25
14
9
Tf
Philip O'Rorke
16
15
17
15
15
15
15
17
17
14
16
17
13
15
14
19
15
15
14
25
14
Cathal
Crovderg
O'Conor14
10
14
8
11
11
11
13
17
12
12
13
13
12
11
11
13
11
11
9
14
25
DNA
Group
T+1
T+1
T+1
T+1
T+2
T+2
T+2
T+2
T+3
Ta
Tc
Td
Te
Tf
How we match, 25
is perfect match--the T3e, T3d,
T3c, T3b, T3a & T3 Groups
How 26 of 82 MacTighernans in 6
of the 16 DNA Groups match each
other based on mutation
event
differences
Sean & Paul-NI are the baseline of the T3d Group
Group
-->
T3e
4
in T3d
2 in
T3c
T3b
3 in
T3a
15 in the T3 Group
DNA
Group
Individual
Philip
O'Rorke
Cathal
Crovderg O'Conor
Peter
JohnL+
Thady
+
Sean
+
&
Paul-NI
Ed
(NJ)
Kevin
-CNGus
John C &
Cathal-NI
&
Gary
Lary
-CT
Paul
-UK
Jim
III
Eoghan, Jim (MA),
Jim (NJ),
Scott (CO),,
Cathal,
Sean-SF & Edwin
Philip O'Rorke
25
14
17
15
16
16
15
15
18
16
17
17
17
17
19
18
Cathal
Crovderg O'Conor
14
25
13
17
18
17
16
16
20
21
21
20
20
20
20
20
Peter
17
13
25
17
15
15
14
16
16
15
16
15
16
16
16
17
T3e
JohnL
+
15
17
17
NA
24
22
18
17
18
18
21
17
18
18
18
19
T3d+3
Thady
+
16
18
15
24
25
23
19
18
19
19
22
18
19
19
19
20
T3d+2
Sean
+ &
Paul-NI
16
17
15
22
23
25
21
20
19
19
20
18
19
19
19
20
T3d
Ed
(NJ)
15
16
14
18
19
21
NA
24
18
17
18
18
19
21
19
20
T3c
Kevin-CN
15
16
16
17
18
20
24
NA
19
16
17
17
18
20
18
19
T3c
Gus
18
20
16
18
19
19
18
19
25
19
20
20
21
20
20
21
T3b
& Cathal-NI
16
21
15
18
19
19
17
16
19
25
20
21
21
T3a
Charles
& Gary
17
21
16
21
22
20
18
17
20
22
NA
21
22
22
22
23
T3+2
Lary-CT
17
20
15
17
18
18
18
17
20
20
21
NA
24
22
22
23
T3+2
Paul-UK
17
20
16
18
19
19
19
18
21
21
22
24
NA
23
23
24
T3+1
Jim
III
17
20
16
18
19
19
21
20
20
21
22
22
23
NA
23
24
T3+1
Joe
19
20
16
18
19
19
19
18
20
21
22
22
23
23
NA
24
T3+1
Leo, John W.,
Eoghan, Jim (MA),
Jim (NJ),
Scott (CO),
Cathal, Sean-SF &
Edwin
18
20
17
19
20
20
20
19
21
23
24
24
T3
DNA
Group
T3e
T3d+3
T3d+2
T3dT3c
T3b
T3a
T3+1
How we match, 25
is perfect match--the T2 & T2a Groups
How 21 of 82 MacTighernans in 2 of the 16 DNA Groups match each
other based on mutation
event
differences
Group
-->
19
in the T2 Group
2 in T2a
DNA
Group
Individual
Eugene, Max,
Jim-SP, KevinM,
Jerry,
Mike-PA,
Barry & Mike-Eng
Greg
Adam
SeanM
Philip
+
Kevin
-mus
+
Paul
Michael
(Eng)
Jim
(P)
Dan
W
Patsy
Nigel
Philip
O'Rorke
Cathal
Crovderg O'Conor
Geoffrey,
Eugene, Bernard Jr,
Max, Jim-SP, KevinM, Jerry,
Mike-PA, Barry & Mike-Eng
25
24
24
24
24
23
23
23
23
22
16
17
16
13
T2
Greg
24
NA
23
23
23
22
22
22
22
21
17
18
17
15
T2+1
Adam
24
23
NA
23
23
22
22
22
22
21
19
20
15
13
T2+1
SeanM
24
23
24
NA
23
22
22
22
22
21
19
20
15
13
T2-1
Philip
+
24
23
23
23
NA
24
22
22
22
21
18
19
15
12
T2+1
Kvin-mus
+
23
22
22
22
24
NA
21
21
23
22
19
18
16
13
T2+2
Paul
23
22
22
22
22
21
NA
21
21
20
16
17
14
14
T2+2
Michael
(Eng)
23
22
22
22
22
21
21
NA
21
22
15
16
15
12
T2+2
Jim
(P)
23
22
22
22
22
23
21
21
NA
24
18
17
16
13
T2+2
Dan-W
22
21
21
21
21
22
20
22
24
NA
17
16
16
13
T2+3
Patsy
16
17
19
19
18
19
16
15
18
17
NA
24
18
12
T2a
Nigel
17
18
20
20
19
18
17
16
17
16
24
NA
17
11
Philip O'Rorke
16
17
15
15
15
16
14
15
16
16
18
17
25
14
Cathal
Crovderg O'Conor
13
15
13
13
12
13
14
12
13
13
12
11
14
25
DNA
Group
T2
T2+1
T2+2
T2a
Above
numbers for perfect match of 25 / 25 are in red
background - for the specific DNA groups, the red +
sign means the grouped individuals are
related
Warren
McTernan is the sole McTernan in the T4 DNA group and is a 5 out of 25
marker match with the T Group and a 7 out of 25 with the T3 Group...So
far
| 82 tests completed in the
MacTighernan
DNA test as of April 25, 2013 In process means the kit is at the testing lab, TBR means kit is to be returned |
In process at lab |
TBR |
Total |
||
| MacTighernans |
82 | 3 |
85 |
||
| The
O'Ruairc of Bréifne: Philip O'Rorke |
1 |
1 |
|||
| The O'Conor Don: Cathal Crovderg O'Conor | 1 |
1 |
|||
| Totals |
82 |
2 |
3 |
87 |
|
Mark may relate to
Martin
from
Dublin as both
families are from the townland of Leonagh. Peter McTiernan of Canada is
related to Michael (CN). Turner Bluechel through his maternal
line is
related to Rory and his sister Alannah. The symbol "<" is an
event that occurred before that
year and a ">" is an event that occurred after that year,
e.g. <1800 means
born before 1800.
| 11 in the T Group baseline
of the 26 total
Ancestor lines in the T Group |
||||||||||||||||
| 25 / 25 DNA Match T baseline |
||||||||||||||||
| Leonagh |
Killinagh Parish, Co Cavan |
TBD |
Sweetwood,
Co Leitrim, Mountallen & Lyonstown, Co Roscommon & Heapstown Co Sligo |
Co
Roscommon > Ardvoley in Beagh / Killavoggy |
Killavoggy / Scotland |
TBD | Tullynacross |
Moneenatieve |
TBD |
|||||||
|
|
||||||||||||||||
|
|
Hugh
1708-1784 |
|||||||||||||||
| James c. 1790 |
Hugh 1760-1832 |
|||||||||||||||
| Patrick 1821 |
James 1805-1856 |
Thomas 1792 |
John 1821 |
|||||||||||||
| Charles * 1859 |
James c 1830 |
Thomas Michael 1838 |
Edward * 1844 |
Cpt
Hugh 1837-1911 |
Thomas 1846 |
Martin |
Peter |
|||||||||
| James 1889 |
Lillian Coyne |
James Laur. 1861 |
Joseph James Sr |
Will. James 1881 |
Henry 1876 |
Thomas 1877 |
Patrick |
John |
Felix 1886-1972 |
Garrett |
James
J. 1860 |
|||||
| James 1921 |
Eliz. Lovett |
Hugh 1900 |
Joseph James Jr. |
Louis Edward 1915 |
Hugh
* Murrough 1912 |
Francis 1917 |
Patrick Edgar 1914 |
John |
John | Martin 1917-2010 |
John |
James Joseph 1901 |
||||
|
Kevin
|
Mark 674 |
|
Martin 3713 |
Thomas (CA) 17363 |
Michael (CN) 3436 |
Rory 1946 1029 |
Alannah |
John-Rev 149591 |
Gerard 1950 170331 |
John (ST) 49265 |
Tony 106135 |
Mary Bohan |
John-P 134141 |
Hugh-K 158701 |
||
| Patrick |
Gerry |
Michael |
Ben |
Antoinett Schapper |
John |
Lisa |
||||||||||
| USA |
Erin |
USA | Canada |
Indonesia |
Aus |
USA |
USA |
Scot- land |
Scot- land |
Eng |
Erin |
Erin |
Erin |
|||
| 9 of the total 26 Ancestor lines of the T Group (non
baseline), with a 23
or 24 match to
the baseline |
|||||||||||||||||
|
24 / 25
DNA Match |
24 / 25
DNA Match |
24
/ 25 DNA Match |
24 / 25
DNA Match |
24
/ 25 DNA Match |
24
/ 25 DNA Match |
24
/ 25 DNA Match |
23
/ 25 DNA Match |
||||||||||
| Sheskin |
Derryvalanagher Glebe |
Drumahaire Town |
Corcusconny | Beagh | Killarney Lakes, Co
Kerry |
||||||||||||
|
Hugh I
1708-1781 |
|||||||||||||||||
| Hugh
II >1728->1781 |
|||||||||||||||||
| Hugh
III <1763->1835 |
|||||||||||||||||
| Hugh IV c. 1791->1851 |
Hugh
c. 1800 |
Owen 1804 |
Patrick
* = Margaret Hogg |
||||||||||||||
| Hugh
V 1836-1909 |
Edward
* 1838 |
Thomas * |
Patrick |
John* 1831 |
James? |
Michael | William James 1834 |
John 1827 |
|||||||||
| Hugh VI* 1866 |
John 1873 |
Michael * 1864 |
James 1867 |
Mary |
James |
John 1859 |
John |
James | David James 1862 |
Thomas 1858 |
Robert 1874 |
||||||
| John Francis 1901 |
Ellen Flynn * |
Maisey Watson |
William
1891 |
Thomas Francis Durkin |
Patrick Daniel |
George 1897 |
James |
Patrick | William** James 1917 |
James Earl 1909 |
Douglas John 1899 |
||||||
|
Michael
674 |
Maureen Bower |
Frank Watson |
James 1923 |
Tom Durkin |
Joan Good |
Jim-SGL 149592 + |
Tom 640 + |
John -Con 164166 + |
Seamus | Mike
+ -UK 155833 |
Maggie |
David (CN) 49264 |
Bob (CN) 85141 |
Ronald |
Osborne Rayburn 1929 |
||
| Jeremy 1978 |
Craig Bower |
Craig Watson |
Jim (CA) 1953 646 |
Denise & Enda |
Claire |
Matt | Lori, Kathy & Kevin |
Douglas 5450 |
Gale Duarte |
||||||||
| USA |
Eng |
Aus |
USA | Eng |
Erin | USA |
Erin | Eng | Canada |
||||||||
| 6 of the total 26 Ancestor lines of the T Group (non baseline), with a 23 or 24 match to the baseline (except Gene** 22 / 25) | ||||||||||||||||||
| 23
/ 25 DNA Match |
23
/ 25 DNA Match |
23
/ 25 DNA Match |
23
/ 25 DNA Match |
22 / 25 DNA Match ** |
||||||||||||||
| Caddagh Glebe |
Doonkelly Fivemilebourne The Manor |
Scotland | Drumahaire Town |
Drumahaire Town |
||||||||||||||
| Terrence Geoffrey |
||||||||||||||||||
| Terrence Geoffrey |
||||||||||||||||||
| Terrence Geoffrey |
James = Ellen McKeon | John
Sr 1817 |
||||||||||||||||
| Terrence Geoffrey |
Hugh
* 1-1848- |
John*
= Georgina 9-1852-2-1902 |
John Jr.* =
Maryanne Donegan 1847 |
|||||||||||||||
| Terrence Geoffrey |
John
= Anne Kerrigan |
William 1897 |
Walter Francis* | John
= Elizabeth Neecham 1882 |
Eugene 1873 |
Alice |
||||||||||||
| Terrence |
Joe+ 1917- |
John | James | Walter Francis |
Edmund | Eugene 1913 |
Mary Elizabeth Gleason |
Helen Whitney |
Joe Walsh |
|||||||||
| Mick 164138 |
Terry |
Brian |
Sean-sol 128785 |
Noel 243950 |
Michael (NJ) 85140 |
Larry 26554 |
Walt |
Brennan |
Phil |
Ed |
Michele |
Gene ** 1960 9498 |
Paul Gleason |
Marion Whitney Martin |
Pat Ferguson |
|||
| Robert |
James |
Michele Gleason |
||||||||||||||||
| Erin |
Erin |
USA | USA | USA | ||||||||||||||
| Ancestor lines of the Ta, Tb, Tc, Td, Te & Tf Groups | ||||||||||||||||||||||
| While
still in their own distinct genetic DNA Group, Scott (AU),
Richard, Adrian and Colin are
a 22 / 25 match, John (USA) & Sgt Chris are a 21 / 25 match and
John
Frank & Myles are a 18 / 25 match with
the T Group baseline. |
||||||||||||||||||||||
| 3 in the Ta Group |
Tb Group |
Tc Group | Td
Group |
Te Group |
Tf
Group |
|||||||||||||||||
|
25 / 25
DNA Ta baseline |
25 / 25
DNA Tb baseline |
25 /
25 DNA Tc baseline |
25 /
25 DNA Td baseline |
25 /
25 DNA Te baseline |
25 /
25 DNA Tf baseline |
|||||||||||||||||
| TBD | Derrinvoher
/ Derrinweer |
TBD (McTiernan to McTurnan) |
Gortermone Barony of Drumahaire |
TBD |
Co Leitrim? |
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| John 1782 |
||||||||||||||||||||||
Hugh * 1809-1880 = Mary
Glennon
|
John <1825 |
Francis | ||||||||||||||||||||
Thomas 1845-1886
|
Patrick 1852 - 1903
|
William Glennan 1853 |
Hugh 1845 |
James Julius |
Charles c. 1855 |
John
* 1824- |
||||||||||||||||
| James McTereny |
John Thomas 1874
|
Harold
Edward |
John Hubert |
William Glennan 1886 |
Hugh* 1865 |
Samuel Ashley |
Frank | Hugh
A. 1857-1938 |
||||||||||||||
| Michael 1873 |
John
Keith 1907 - 1982 |
Selwyn
Thomas 1906 |
Bernard = Gywladys Calnan
1913 |
Leo |
Allan Douglas |
Oscar Glennan |
Hugh 1896 |
William Willard |
John
George |
John* |
David |
Edward 1896- |
||||||||||
| Michael Francis |
Peter |
Moya Deidr 1941 |
Leo
1934 |
Valerie |
Patricia |
Grant Anthony |
John Dennis |
David Bruce
(AU) 1954 |
Richard Patrick 135598 |
Nicholas |
Trevor James |
Margaret Donoghoe |
Hugh 1924 |
William Randy |
Dan | John Frank 1935 117676 |
Jacqueline |
Myles James |
William Francis -1944 |
Erit 1929 |
Ed |
|
| Adrian 106134 |
Michael |
Jenni |
Scott
(AU) 639 |
Bradley
& Matthew |
Lachlan, Wesley & Cameron |
Kristie
Tenille & Hamish Liam |
Campbell & Madeline |
Nicholas |
Michael |
Glennan Donoghoe |
John
(USA) 635 |
Chris Lee 31886 |
Kim | Selina Tanner |
Myles James 187076 |
Colin+ 192960 |
||||||
| Eng |
Australia |
USA |
Iraq | USA |
USA |
Eng |
USA | USA |
||||||||||||||
The symbol "<" is an event that occurred before that year and a ">" is an event that occurred after that year, e.g. <1800 means born before 1800
| 10 in the T 2 Group baseline
of
the 19 total Ancestor lines of
the T 2 Group |
||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| 25
/ 25 DNA Match T 2 baseline |
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| Co Sligo | TBD | Drumahaire (T) |
TBD | TBD |
Greaghnafarna |
Drumahaire Town |
Co
Leitrim |
Bargowla |
Manorhamilton |
|||||||||||||||||||
| Teddy
/ Thady c 1800 |
John
= Mary Rudden c 1810 |
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Patrick 1836 |
James*
= Mary Welsh 1826- |
James
* = Bridget Donnelly 10-5-1838 |
John
J. * 1852-1887 |
|||||||||||||||||||||||||
| John c 1866 |
Bernard* c 1855 |
Owen | Terrence |
James
= Sarah Jennings 1863 |
John
Francis = Jennie Killian 1-28-1873 |
George Steven 1881- |
||||||||||||||||||||||
| John 1893 |
Bernard Sr. 1885 |
Bernard | William | James 1898 |
Patrick |
Michael 1921 |
John 1899- WWI |
William
= Charlotte Phillips 1888-1955 |
Tom |
Harold Joseph 1904- |
Henry 1904 |
James Edward 1914 |
George 1909-1953 |
William S. I 1911 |
Gerald John 1906- |
|||||||||||||
| Geoff 3435 |
Bernard Jr. 1917 2145 |
Bernard Eugene |
David John |
John Wilson 1928 |
Eugene | Eugene 128783 |
Mary see 164166 |
John |
Michael |
Joe |
Frederick |
James 1920-1996 |
Ken 1927 |
Peter 1936- |
David |
Don |
Mike Sr. |
Ronnie Goldberg |
Dennis |
Michael |
Peter |
Judy |
William S. II |
John Gerald 1935- |
||||
| Sue Calvert |
Bernard III | KevinM 170332 |
Max 1973 71428 |
Jim-SP 155834 |
Eugene | Anne Conlon |
Barry 201474 |
David |
Mike -Eng 172135 |
Edith Ann Maynard |
Peter |
Geraldine |
Paul |
Matt |
Mike -PA 175937 |
Brian -MD |
Haley |
William S. III |
Jerry 251863 |
John Gerald |
||||||||
Joseph |
Owen |
David -soc |
Duncan |
Phil Layton |
Mike |
Cassidy |
||||||||||||||||||||||
| Eng | USA | Eng | Eng | USA | Erin |
Erin |
Middlesbrough England |
USA |
USA | |||||||||||||||||||
| 9 of the
total 19 Ancestor lines of the T2 Group (non
baseline), with a 23
or 24 match to
the baseline (except Dan-W with 22/25) |
T2a Group baseline |
|||||||||||||||||||||
| 24
/ 25 DNA Match |
24
/ 25 DNA Match |
24
/ 25 DNA Match |
24
/ 25 DNA Match |
23 / 25 DNA Match |
23
/ 25 DNA Match |
23 / 25 DNA Match |
23 / 25 DNA Match |
22 / 25 DNA Match |
24
/ 25 DNA Match |
24
/ 25 DNA Match |
||||||||||||
| TBD | Drumahaire (T) | TBD |
Killeen,
Kilmore
or Drumkeel
in Killargue parish then Lisgavneen |
Corglancy | Co Leitrim | Co Leitrim | Drumshanbo Parish |
Killaunmmery |
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| Farrell 1710-10-8-1781 |
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| ?
McTiernan c 1745 |
||||||||||||||||||||||
| ?
McTiernan c 1780 |
||||||||||||||||||||||
| Michael c 1810 |
Owen c 1795 |
?
= Elizabeth 1817- |
||||||||||||||||||||
| James* |
Hugh
F. 1846 |
Bryan 1829 |
James |
James A | James 1846-1885 |
|||||||||||||||||
| Cornelius | Patrick c 1875 |
Henry Francis |
Charles 1889 |
Hugh* 1887 |
James Hugh c 1882 |
Beatrice c 1885 |
Patrick* 1873 |
John* 1876 |
Terrence 1884 |
John* 1880 |
James A | James
Percy 1878 |
James |
|||||||||
| Daniel Francis |
John Patrick 1905 |
Henry Francis |
Martin 1921 |
Charles |
Hugh J. (Bos) 1918 |
James 1922 |
John Duggan 1899 |
Bridget Duggan 1900 |
Mary c. 1896 |
John c. 1897 |
2
kids b. MA |
Bernard | Edward | Francis James 1918 |
James A | James 1914-1989 |
Patrick |
James |
John |
|||
| Daniel Francis |
John Patrick 1940 |
SeanM 261248 |
Philip 146792 |
Kevin -mus 134142 |
Cathal |
Chris |
Holly |
Dr Anne |
Sarah Murphy |
Michael (Eng) 5449 |
Paul Edwin 73917 |
Jim
(P) + 63418 |
Andy 1950- |
Patsy 121177 |
Seamus |
Norbert |
||||||
| Greg 149593 |
Adam Patrick 19343 |
Simon | Jarlath |
Kevin -IL |
Amanda McClain |
Rachel Tompa |
Michelle Gerard |
Matt |
Dan-W + 187077 |
Nigel 261247 |
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| Canada |
England | USA |
Eng |
Erin | USA |
England |
USA | USA | England | Erin |
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The McTernan
family
history from
Tullycorka written
by Brother Gerald McTernan shows that he is related to
Jim (NJ). Leo, Eoghan, Jim (MA), Jim (NJ), John W., Cathal and
Scott (CO)
match 25 /
25. John L., Cindi,
Jim, Maryellen and Kathy are related to
Scott (CO). The symbol
"<" is an event that occurred before that
year and a ">" is an event that occurred after that year,
e.g. <1800 means
born before 1800. Cathal's grandfather, James 1876-, had four
additional siblings,
Patrick, Bridget, Ellen & Mary Gaffney, nee McTiernan
| 9 in the T 3 Group baseline
of
the 15 total Ancestor lines of
the T 3 Group |
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| 25 / 25 DNA Match T 3 baseline |
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Kilcoosy? |
TBD |
Tullycorka |
Tap
/ Ummeryroe Co Sligo |
Cleenaghoo
then Aghatawny Upper then Ballinamore Town Oughteragh Parish |
Cleenaghoo
then Ballinamore Town Oughteragh Parish |
Ballinamore
Town Oughteragh Parish |
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| widow
Tiernan |
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| Thaddeus |
Phelim <1800 |
James
Tierney 1813 |
Terrence c 1800 |
Phelim 1789 |
Patrick
= Mary c 1815-1885 |
Lawrence
* = Bridget Earley c 1810 |
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| James J. |
William* 1846- |
Patrick <1836 |
Myles Elim |
Owen Tierney* 1864 |
James Joseph* 1837 |
Thomas 1829 |
Michael 1838 |
Thomas 1837 |
James
= Ellen Stringer c. 1842 |
Patrick
c. 1839 |
Law- rence * 1842 |
John*
= Mary Elcock 1846-1911 |
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| James S. * |
William John 1882- |
James 1856 |
Patrick 1859 |
Patrick |
James Tierney |
Patrick* 1861 |
Michael Joseph* 1875 |
Tom 1867 |
Edward |
John Joseph 1879 |
Pat | James
= Mary Ellen Flynn 1876 |
Francis 1874 |
John 1869 |
Joseph Elcock 1883-1917 |
James Michael c. 1885 |
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| Francis X. |
Edwin Thomas 1906- |
James* 1897 |
Felix* 1904 |
Michael 1905* |
Robert McTiernan |
Sir Edward |
Joseph 1920 |
Tom 1911 |
Winifred |
Sean 1919 |
Michael | Gerry 1916 |
Tony 1919 |
Cathal 1921 |
Helena | James Patrick* 1911 |
Pat 1902 |
John 1907 |
Michael the Bull 1906 |
John H | Joseph Edward |
James Michael |
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| John W 31885 |
Edwin John 201472 |
John 1934 |
Jim (NJ) 1010 |
John Kevin |
Bob
& Francis |
Maureen Hatch |
Jim (MA) 9497 |
Leo 21151 |
Phyllis |
Mary Ann Orrico |
Eoghan 1958 636 |
Austin | Gerry |
Ann |
David 1970 |
Cathal 1958 117675 |
Austin Quinn |
Kevin Patrick 1945 |
Gary |
James, Padraig, Seamus |
Tom |
Desmond | Joe |
John 1950 |
John R | Mary Ellen Fargey |
Scott (CO) 5451 |
||||
| Adam |
Brian 1971 |
Trent John |
Kaylie |
John | Felim | Gerard Barry |
Sean -SF 135597 |
Desmond | Cindi | Kathy | Bill |
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| John
N |
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| USA | USA |
USA |
Aus |
USA |
Aus | USA
|
Eng | Erin | Erin | USA | Erin |
Aus |
USA |
||||||||||||||||||
The symbol "<" is
an
event that
occurred before that year and
a
">" is an event that occurred after that year, e.g. <1800 means
born before 1800
| 6 of the 15 total Ancestor lines of the T 3 Group (non baseline), with a 23 or 24 match to the baseline | |||||||||||
| 24 / 25 DNA Match |
24 / 25 DNA Match |
24 / 25 DNA Match |
23 / 25 DNA Match |
23 / 25 DNA Match |
23 / 25 DNA Match |
||||||
| Killargue
parish then Greaghnaglogh |
Lavaur ? |
Drumshanbo Parish |
Co Leitrim |
Drumreilly
parish / Knocks / Glebe |
Bellanagh Co Cavan |
||||||
| Seamey c 1780 |
Michael c 1779 |
||||||||||
| James 1806 |
William
I |
Hugh c 1809 |
|||||||||
| Patrick 1846 |
William
II 1846 |
Hugh c 1845 |
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| John* 1897 |
James
Augustine I |
Martyn |
Peter |
Edward
* 1879 |
Michael * |
||||||
| Patrick |
Joe 1028 |
Margaret | James
Augustine II |
Francis 1909 |
Lawrence 1914 |
Charles
Edward 1918 638 ** |
John Francis |
||||
| John- bld |
Kevin | Jim Murphy | Jim
III 122584 |
Paul-UK 171484 |
Lary-CT 175938 |
Charles |
Gary 164167 ** |
Jeff |
Kevin |
||
| Jack Joseph 7-1-2011- |
Chris |
Michael- law |
Stephen |
||||||||
| Erin |
USA | USA |
Eng |
USA | USA |
USA | |||||
The symbol "<" is an
event that
occurred before that year and
a
">" is an event that occurred after that year, e.g. <1800 means
born before 1800
| Ancestor lines of the T3c, T3b & T3a Groups | ||||||||||||||
| While still in their own distinct genetic DNA Group, David (NJ), Cathal-NI & John C. are 22 / 25, Gus is a 21 / 25 and Ed (NJ) is a 20 / 25 match with the T3 baseline | ||||||||||||||
| T3c | T3b | 3 in T3a Group |
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| 24
/ 25 DNA Match T 3c Group |
25
/ 25 DNA Match T 3b baseline |
25
/ 25 DNA Match T 3a baseline |
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| Tulcon | Gubveeney / Blacklion Co Cavan |
Scotland |
TBD |
Gortermone, Drumahaire |
Corratawy | |||||||||
| Bernard Tiernan <1846 |
Michael 1845 |
Charles |
James * 1834 |
Francis? | Martin c 1814 |
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| Francis* 1876 |
Thomas
Edward 1880 |
Farrell Patrick |
James 1859 |
Francis c. 1866 |
Charles 1844 |
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| Maurice 1922 |
Edward |
Michael 1916 |
Farrell Ramsey |
James 1890 |
Charles James 1908 |
Martin 1892 |
James |
Charles Kevin 1901 |
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| Charles |
Michael |
Ed (NJ) 8723 |
Nancy (DC) |
Kevin -CN 171485 |
Ken |
Helene |
Berna -dette |
Gus 8724 |
David (NJ) 1920 2392 |
Joe |
Cathal 1936 |
John
C. 637 |
Kevin -tax |
|
| Deirdre Mullen |
Jim | Cathal -NI 243949 |
Mark |
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| Ryan | ||||||||||||||
| USA | Canada |
Erin | Zimbabwa Africa |
USA |
Northern Ireland |
Erin |
USA |
Erin |
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| Ancestor lines of the T3e & T3d Groups |
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| While still in their own distinct genetic
DNA Group, Sean, Paul-NI & Thady are a 20 / 25 and JohnL is a 19 / 25 and Peter is a 17 / 25 match with the T3 baseline |
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| T3e |
4 in the T3d Group |
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| 25
/ 25 DNA Match T 3e baseline |
23
/ 25 & 22 / 25 DNA Match T 3d Group |
25
/ 25 DNA Match T 3d baseline |
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| Drumshanbo Parish |
Moneyduff,
>
Gleneige, > Mulkaun, > Conray |
Gleneige | |||||||||||||
| Stephen <1800 |
Michael |
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| Terence* 1826- 1884 |
Ann 1834 |
Charles 1830 |
Laughlin | Martin | Bryan 1808 |
James |
Michael
= Mary Devaney 1837 |
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| Stephen Terence 1859- 1921 |
Garrett 1860 |
Patrick 1854 |
Bryan 1851 |
little Patrick |
Patrick |
James
= Kate 1878 Egan |
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| Stephen Terence 1901- 1953 |
Michael 1894 |
Patrick 1891 |
Thomas 1897 |
Patrick | Mick |
Michael | |||||||||
| Peter 1932 138619 |
Thady + 138618 |
Charles Paddy |
Pascal | Theresia Levis |
Patrick
James PJ 1932 |
Patrick -2001 |
Maureen |
Paul-NI 180027 |
Siobhan Porter |
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| Mark 1957 |
Pascal | JohnL + 269707 |
Sean + 128784 |
Eoin |
Marrianne & Genevieve |
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| Caitriona | Ryan | ||||||||||||||
| Wakefield England |
Erin |
Erin |
Erin |
USA |
Erin |
Erin |
Northern Ireland |
Eng |
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The
symbol "<" is an event that
occurred before that year and
a
">" is an event that occurred after that year, e.g. <1800 means
born before 1800. Warren
in the T4 DNA Group
is in the Q Haplogroup.
| Ancestor line of the T4 Group |
| T4
Group |
| 25
/ 25 DNA Match T 4 baseline |
| TBD |
| John
B |
| Warren |
| Warren 251864 |
| USA |
The symbol "<" is an event that occurred before that year and a ">" is an event that occurred after that year, e.g. <1800 means born before 1800
| MacTighernans & their ancestors that should want to do the DNA test | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| 1st table of 15 of 44 MacTighernans yet to be tested | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| 1 |
2 |
3 |
4 |
5 |
6 |
7 |
8 |
9 |
10 |
11 |
12 |
13 |
14 |
15 |
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| TBD | Greaghnafarna,
Killanummery Parish / Mullagh |
Leonagh |
TBD |
Sweetwood
/ Killavoggy |
Lavaur |
Drumshanbo (T) |
TBD | Drumahaire (T) |
Drumahaire (T) |
TBD |
TBD |
Co Leitrim |
Co Roscommon |
Drumahaire (T) |
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| James
? 1806 |
Mary McTernan 1800 |
William |
James c 1800 |
James c 1800 |
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| Patrick c 1832 |
John |
Felix McGovern |
Patrick |
Myles | Patrick* 1827- |
Charles 1839- |
Michael 1830 |
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| Jimmy Jamsey |
Marie Daly |
Patrick c 1870 |
James |
John McGovern |
John |
Michael* | Hugh* 1887 |
Walter I |
Patrick H 1863- |
John Henry 1855- |
Henry Patrick |
Charles 1855- |
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| Kevin
/ Michael |
Bridget Conlon |
Catherine Staley 1912 |
John |
Bridget Mary 1909 |
Mary Ellen Traynor |
Ben McGovern |
Bridget 1896 |
John |
Katherine Bradley |
Willie |
Hugh Joseph 1888 |
Walter II |
Charles C. 1882- |
William Francis 1895- |
Leo Joseph |
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| Roger | Kevin Conlon |
Patricia
Ann Patterson |
John Michael |
Margaret Fowley |
Arthur Martin Traynor |
John Tripp |
Ben McGovern |
Gerry Shea 1926 |
daug? |
John
* |
Mike- LA |
Walter III |
Donald 1919-2002 |
William Francis 1922- |
Francis |
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| Roger |
Amanda Krisco |
Clodagh Monk |
Mary Traynor |
Garrett |
Gwen Brogdon |
Gerry Shea |
JohnT 190362 |
Rita |
Jason Helder |
Brennan (NJ) |
Phil |
Ed |
Wooton |
Jim - FL |
Angelina Lequand |
Regina Bellier |
William Francis (OK) |
Gerald, James, John |
John -w |
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| Frederic & Oliver |
Maureen, Caroline & Sabine |
Michael Patrick |
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| USA |
Erin | Erin |
USA | Eng |
Eng |
USA | USA | USA | USA |
USA |
USA |
USA |
USA |
USA |
USA |
USA |
France |
USA |
USA |
USA |
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| Any
female MacTighernans listed above must have a male relative with the
surname of MacTighernan do the DNA test |
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The symbol "<" is an event that occurred before that year and a ">" is an event that occurred after that year, e.g. <1800 means born before 1800
| MacTighernans & their ancestors that should want to do the DNA test | |||||||||||||||||||||||
| 2nd table of 12 of 44 MacTighernans yet to be tested | |||||||||||||||||||||||
| 16 |
17 |
18 |
19 |
20 |
21 |
22 |
23 |
24 |
25 |
26 |
27 |
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| Ballinamore |
TBD |
TBD |
TBD | Drumshanbo |
Drumkeeran |
TBD |
Kilcoosy |
Ballintogher Co Sligo |
Drumkeeran |
TBD |
Scotland | ||||||||||||
| Thomas 1815 |
Patrick c 1820 |
James McTernan |
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| Michael* 1843 |
John*
c1846 |
Charles | Hugh McTearnen |
Mary Flynn 1842 |
Hugh Tierney |
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| William 1878 |
Tom | Mike | John | Anne Norton* 1869 |
Hugh Tierney 1868 |
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| Gerard | Roy | Catherine Sheridan 1904 |
Ellen Trainer |
John James |
James |
Gordon David |
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| Sister Regina |
Roy | Joe-NY 201475 |
Colleen | Tim |
Michael |
Douglas |
Barbara |
John- Elm |
Ann Delmore 1930 |
Eileen Santen |
Joseph |
John |
Thomas |
Kirsten |
Michelle |
Gordon David |
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| Dillon |
Ellen Romagnoli |
SeanJ |
Erin |
Tim
/ Willie |
Sinead |
son |
son |
Wenona Suydam |
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| Mark Romagnoli |
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| USA |
USA |
USA |
USA |
USA |
USA |
USA |
Canada |
Canada / Erin |
Eng |
England |
Eng | ||||||||||||
| Any female MacTighernans listed above must have a male relative with the surname of MacTighernan do the DNA test | |||||||||||||||||||||||
The
symbol "<" is an event that
occurred before that year and
a
">" is an event that occurred after that year, e.g. <1800 means
born before 1800
| MacTighernans & their ancestors that should want to do the DNA test | |||||||||||||||||||||
| 3rd table of 11 of 44 MacTighernans yet to be tested | |||||||||||||||||||||
| 28 |
29 |
30 |
31 |
32 |
33 |
34 |
35 |
36 |
37 |
38 |
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| Co Leitrim | TBD |
TBD |
TBD |
Co
Sligo |
TBD |
Killargue Parish |
Drumshanbo Parish |
Drumahaire |
TBD |
Morerah |
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| Peter 1855-1932 |
Cormac
= Catherine Lee 1844 |
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| Michael 1878-1934 |
Thomas |
Patrick 1895 |
Michael Joseph |
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| Helen 1917-1972 |
Dave | John Patrick |
Padraig | Pat
Joe 1948 |
Mary Bernice |
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| Peter |
John |
Archie Young |
John Pol |
Sam 210637 |
Joe | Michael -STV |
Dave |
Jayne |
Ron |
Neil |
Orla |
Moira |
Kevin |
Carl (airPt) |
Noel |
Hugh | Padriac | Rory | Steve Vollick |
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| Peter |
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| Scotland | Scotland | Scotland | Scotland | Scotland |
Aus |
Erin |
Erin |
Erin |
Erin |
Erin |
Canada |
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| Any female MacTighernans listed above must have a male relative with the surname of MacTighernan do the DNA test | |||||||||||||||||||||
| MacTighernans & their ancestors that should want to do the DNA test | |||||
| 4th table of 6 of 44 MacTighernans yet to be tested | |||||
| 39 |
40 |
41 |
42 |
43 |
44 |
| TBD |
Co
Leitrim |
Co
Leitrim |
TBD |
TBD | TBD |
| Ramon
Veira McTiernan |
SeanSP |
Paul |
John
Anthony |
Conor |
Dave |
| Spain |
Spain |
New Zealand |
Norway |
Japan |
Switzerland |
| Any female MacTighernans listed above must have a male relative with the surname of MacTighernan do the DNA test | |||||
| Known Townland of Origin for
the McTernans
/ McTiernans / MacTiernans / McKiernans
in
the DNA test |
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| Individual, kit
# & DNA group |
Townland of Origin |
County |
Barony | Civil parish |
Catholic parish |
Dioceses | P L U | Probate District |
Registrar District |
1911 Census District Electoral Divison |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
|
Martin McTiernan 3713 T |
|
Leitrim |
|
|
|
|
|
Ballina |
Drumahaire | Belhavel |
|
|
TBD |
? |
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|
|
Mountallen Heapstown Lyonstown |
Leitrim Roscommon Sligo Roscommon |
Boyle Tirerrill Boyle |
Kilronan Kilmacallen Ardcarne |
Kilronan Riverstown Cootehall |
Ardagh Elphin Elphin Elphin |
Boyle Sligo Boyle |
Ballina Taum Ballina Taum |
Drumahaire Keadew ? Keadew |
Belhavel Aghafin Lakeview Crossna |
| Thomas (CA) McTernan 17363 T |
TBD | Cavan | Tullyhaw |
Killinagh |
Killinagh |
Kilmore |
Enniskillen |
Cavan |
? |
|
| John
(ST)
McTernan 49265 T |
TBD |
? |
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| Tony
McTiernan 106135 T |
Tullynacross |
Leitrim |
Drumahaire |
Killarga | Killargue | Kilmore | Manorhamilton | Ballina | Drumahaire | Killarga |
| John-P
McTiernan 134141 T |
Moneenatieve |
Leitrim | Drumahaire | Killarga | Killargue | Kilmore | Manorhamilton | Ballina | Drumahaire |
St. Patrick's |
| John-Rev
McTernan 149591 T |
---- Ardvoley in Beagh / Killavoggy |
Roscommon --- Leitrim |
--- Drumahaire |
--- Killanummery |
--- Killanummery |
--- Ardagh |
--- Manorhamilton |
--- Ballina |
--- Drumahaire |
? ---- Garvagh |
| Hugh-K
McKiernan 158701 T |
TBD | ? |
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| Gerard
McTernan 170331 T |
Killavoggy |
Leitrim | Drumahaire | Killanummery | Killanummery | Ardagh | Manorhamilton | Ballina | Drumahaire | Garvagh |
|
|
|
Leitrim |
|
|
|
|
|
Ballina |
Drumahaire | Cloonlougher |
|
|
Glebe |
Leitrim |
|
|
|
|
|
Ballina |
Drumkerran
|
Mahanagh |
| Jim
McTiernan - SGL 149592 T + 1 |
Drumahaire
(T) |
Leitrim |
Drumahaire | Drumlease |
Drumlease (Drumahaire) |
Kilmore |
Manorhamilton |
Ballina |
Drumahiare |
Cloonlougher |
|
|
|
Leitrim |
|
|
|
|
Ballina |
Drumahaire | Belhavel | |
| John-con
McTernan 164166 T + 1 |
Corcusconny |
Leitrim | Drumahaire | Killanummery | Killanummery / Ballintogher |
Ardagh | Manorhamilton | Ballina | Drumahaire | Drumahaire |
| Mike-UK McTernan 155833 T + 1 | Beagh | Leitrim | Drumahaire | Killanummery | Killanummery | Ardagh | Manorhamilton | Ballina | Drumahaire | Garvagh |
| David
(CN) McTiernan 49264 T + 1 Bob McTiernan (CN) 85141 T + 1 Douglas McTiernan 5450 T + 2 |
Killarney Lakes |
Kerry |
Magunihy | Killarney | Glenflesk |
Ardfert & Aghadoe |
Killarney | Cork |
? |
|
| Mick
McTernan 164138 T + 2 |
Caddagh
Glebe |
Leitrim | Drumahaire | Killanummery | Killanummery | Ardagh | Manorhamilton | Ballina | Drumahaire | Garvagh |
| Sean-sol
McTernan 128785 T + 2 Noel McTernan 243950 T + 2 |
Doonkelly The Manor FiveMile Bourne |
Leitrim | Drumahaire | Drumlease | Drumahaire | Kilmore | Manorhamilton | Ballina | Drumahaire | Sramore |
| Michael (NJ) McTiernan 85140 T + 2 | TBD |
Scotland ? | ? |
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| Larry McTernan 26554 T + 2 | Drunahaire
(T) |
Leitrim |
Drumahaire | Drumlease | Drumlease | Kilmore | Manorhamilton | Ballina | Drumahaire |
Drumahaire |
| Gene
McTiernan 9498 T + 3 * |
TBD |
Leitrim | ? |
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|
Richard McTernan 135598 T a |
Derrinvoher / Derrinweer |
Leitrim |
|
Inishmagrath |
Inishmagrath |
Kilmore |
|
Ballina |
Drumkerran |
Drumkeeran |
| Adrian
McTiernan 106134 T a |
TBD |
? |
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|
|
|
Leitrim |
|
|
|
|
|
Ballina |
Lurganboy |
Glenade |
| Sgt.
Chris McTurnan 31886 T c |
TBD |
? |
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| John
Frank
McTernan 117676 T d |
Gortermone | Leitrim | Drumahaire | Killarga | Drumlease (Drumahaire) |
Kilmore | Manorhamilton | Ballina | Drumahaire | Cloonlagher |
| Myles
McTernan 187076 T e |
TBD |
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| Colin
McTernan
192960 T f |
Leitrim? | |||||||||
| Groffrey McTernan 3435 T2 Bernard McTernan Jr. 2145 T2 Max McTernan 71428 T2 Eugene McTernan 128783 T2 Jim-SP McTiernan 155834 T2 Mike-Eng McTiernan 172135 T2 |
TBD TBD TBD Greaghnafarna TBD TBD |
Sligo --?-- --?-- Leitrim -?-- -?- |
? ? ? Drumahaire -?- -?- |
? ? ? Killanummery -?- -?- |
? ? ? Killanummery -?- -?- |
? ? ? Ardagh -?- -?- |
? ? ? Manorhamilton -?- -?- |
? ? ? Ballina -?- -?- |
? ? ? Drumahaire -?- -?- |
? ? ? Yugan -?- -?- |
| Mike-PA McTernan 175937 T2 | Bargowla |
Leitrim |
Drumaharie |
Inishmagrath | Inishmagrath | Kilmore | Manorhamilton | Ballina | Drumkerran | Arigna |
| KevinM
Murphy 170332 T2 |
Drunahaire (T) | Leitrim | Drumahaire | Drumlease | Drumlease | Kilmore | Manorhamilton | Ballina | Drumahaire | Drumahaire |
| Jerry
McTernan 251863 T2 |
Manorhamilton |
Leitrim | Drumahaire / Rosclogher |
Cloonclare / Kilasnet |
Manorhamilton / Killasnet |
Kilmore | Manorhamilton | Ballina | Manorhamilton | Manorhamilton |
| Barry
McTernan 201474 T2 |
Drunahaire (T) | Leitrim | Drumahaire | Drumlease | Drumlease | Kilmore | Manorhamilton | Ballina | Drumahaire | Drumahaire |
| Adam
McTiernan 19343 T2 + 1 |
Drumahaire (T) | Leitrim | Drumahaire | Drumlease | Drumlease |
Kilmore | Manorhamilton | Ballina |
Drumahaire | Drumahaire |
| Greg McTiernan 149593 T2 + 1 | TBD |
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| SeanM
McTernan 261248 T2 + 1 |
TBD |
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| Philip
McTernan 146792 T2 + 1 +++++++ Kevin-mus McTernan 134142 T2 + 2 +++++ Hugh (Bos) Dr Anne McTiernan |
TBD ++++ Lisgarveen ++++ Drumkeel / Lisgarveen / Killeen / Kilmore |
Leitrim | Drumahaire | Killarga ++++ Killarga / Killanummery / Drumlease |
Killargue ++++ Killargue / Killanummery & Killerry / Drumlease (Drumahaire) |
Kilmore | Manorhamilton | Ballina | Drumahaire | ? +++ Drumkeeran +++ Belhavel / Drumkeeran / Drumahaire / Yugan |
| Paul McTiernan 73917 T2 + 2 | TBD |
Leitrim |
? |
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| Michael
(Eng) McTiernan 5449 T2 + 2 |
Corglancey | Leitrim | Drumahaire | Killanummery | Killanummery | Kilmore | Manorhamilton | Ballina | Drumahaire | Killanummery |
| Jim
(P) McTernan 63418 T2 + 2 |
TBD |
Leitrim | ? |
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| Dan
- W McTiernan 187077 T2 + 3 |
TBD |
Leitrim | Drumahaire | Kiltoghert | Drumshanbo | Ardagh | Carrick-on-Shannon | Cavan | Drumshanbo | Barnameenagh |
| Patsy
McTiernan 121177 T2 a Nigel McTiernan 261247 T2 a |
Killanummery | Leitrim | Drumahaire | Killanummery | Killanummery | Ardagh | Manorhamilton | Ballina | Drumahaire | Killanummery |
| Peter McTiernan 138619 T3 e | TBD | Leitrim | Leitrim | Killoghert | Drumshanbo | Ardagh | Carrick-on-Shannon | Cavan | Drumshanbo | ? |
| Sean
McTernan 128784 T3 d |
Gleneige Glencar Newtown Manor |
Leitrim | Drumahaire | Drumlease | Drumlease | Kilmore | Manorhamilton | Ballina | Drumahaire | Sramore |
| Paul-NI
McTernan 180027 T3 d |
Gleneige | Leitrim | Drumahaire | Drumlease |
Drumahaire | Kilmore | Manorhamilton | Ballina | Drumahaire | Drumahaire |
| Thady
McTernan 138618 T3 d + 2 JohnL McTienan 269707 T3 d + 3 * |
Moneyduff ---- Gleneige --- Mulkaun ---- Conray |
Leitrim | Drumahaire --- Drumahaire --- Drumahaire --- Roscloghe |
Drumlease --- Drumlease ----- Drumlease --- Killasnet |
Drumlease (Drumahaire) -- Drumahaire --- Drumlease (Drumahaire) --- Killasnet |
Kilmore | Manorhamilton | Ballina | Drumahaire | Sramore ---- Sramore ---- Glencar |
| Ed (NJ) McTiernan
8723 T3 c |
Tulcon |
Leitrim | Mohill |
Cloon |
Cloon |
Ardagh |
Mohill |
Cavan |
Mohil | Drumard |
| Kevin-CN
McTiernan 171485 T3 c |
Gubaveeny ---- Blacklion |
Cavan | Tullyhaw | Killinagh | Killinagh | Kilmore | Enniskillen | Cavan | ? |
Killinagh |
| Gus McTiernan
8724 T3 b |
TBD |
Scotland ? | ? |
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| David (NJ) McTernan
2392 T3 a |
TBD |
? |
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| Cathal-NI
McTernan 243949 T3 a |
Gortermone | Leitrim | Drumahaire | Killarga | Drumlease (Drumahaire) |
Kilmore | Manorhamilton | Ballina | Drumahaire | Cloonlougher |
|
|
|
Leitrim |
|
|
|
|
|
Ballina | Drumkerran | Belhavel |
| Gary
McTiernan 164167 T3 + 2 |
Bellananagh |
Cavan |
Clanmahon |
Kilmore |
Carrick-Finea |
Ardagh |
Cavan |
Cavan |
? |
? |
|
|
|
Leitrim |
|
|
|
|
|
Cavan |
Ballinamore |
Garadice |
| Lary-CT
McTiernan 175938 T3 + 2 |
TBD |
Leitrim |
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| Paul-UK
McTiernan 171484 T3 + 1 |
TBD |
Leitrim | Leitrim | Killoghert |
Drumshanbo | Ardagh | Carrick-on-Shannon | Cavan | Drumshanbo | ? |
| Joe
McTiernan 1028 T3 + 1 |
Greaghnaglogh | Leitrim | Drumahaire | Inishmagrath | Inishmagrath | Kilmore | Manorhamilton | Ballina | Drumkerran | Mahanagh |
| Jim
McTiernan III 122584 T3 + 1 |
Lavaur
? |
Leitrim | Leitrim | Killoghert | Murhann
/ Drumshanbo |
Ardagh | Carrick
on the Shannon |
Cavan | Drumshanbo | Barnameenagh |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
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| John
W McTiernan 31885 T 3 |
Kilcoosy | Leitrim | Drumahaire | Drumlease | Drumahaire | Kilmore | Manorhamilton | Ballina | Drumahaire | Drumahaire |
| Jim (MA) McTiernan 9497
T 3 |
Tap
|
Sligo | Tirerrill | Shancough |
|
|
Boyle | Ballina |
Ballynashee | |
|
Eoghan McTiernan 636 T 3 |
|
Sligo |
|
|
|
|
|
Ballina |
Shancough | |
|
|
|
Leitrim |
|
|
|
|
|
Ballina |
Drumkerran | St. Patrick's |
| Cathal
McTiernan 117675 T 3 Scott (CO) MacTiernan 9497 T 3 & Sean - SF McTiernan 135597 T 3 |
Cleenaghoo
------ Aghatawny Upper ----- Ballinamore Town |
Leitrim | Carrigallen | Oughteragh | Ballinamore | Kilmore | Bawnboy | Cavan | Ballinamore | Garadice --- Ballinamore --- Ballinamore |
| Warren
McTiernan 1251864 T 4 |
TBD |
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| Townland of Origin for the
McTernans / McTiernans / MacTiernans
that have not yet taken
the DNA test |
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| Individual & kit # |
Townland of Origin |
County |
Barony | Civil parish |
Catholic parish |
Dioceses | P L U | Probate District |
Registrar District |
1911
Census District Electoral Div |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Patt Patterson | Greaghnafarna ---- Mullagh |
Leitrim | Drumahaire | Killanummery | Killanummery ----- Drumlease |
Ardagh | Manorhamilton | Ballina | Drumahaire | Drumahaire ----- Yugan |
| John-w
McTernan |
Drumahaire
(T) |
Leitrim | Drumahaire | Killanummery | Killanummery | Ardagh | Manorhamilton | Bellina | Drumahaire | Drumahaire |
| Gwen Brogdon | Killavoggy
/ Sweetwood Lower |
Leitrim | Drumahaire | Killanummery | Killanummery & Killerry |
Ardagh | Manorhamilton | Ballina | Drumahaire | Garvagh
/ Belhavel |
| Eileen Santen | Kilcoosy | Leitrim | Drumahaire | Drumlease | Drumlease (Drumahaire) |
Kilmore | Manorhamilton | Ballina | Drumahaire | Drumahaire |
| Pat
Joe McTernan & 4 sons |
Morerah |
Leitrim |
Drumahaire |
Drumlease |
Drumlease (Drumahaire) |
Kilmore | Manorhamilton | Ballina | Drumahaire | Lurganboy |
| Gerry Shea | Lavaur | Leitrim | Leitrim | Kiltoghert | Murhann
/ Drumshanbo |
Ardagh | Carrick-on-Shannon | Cavan | Drumshanbo | Barnameenagh |
| JohnT
Tiernan (190362) |
Drumshanbo (T) |
Leitrim |
Leitrim |
Kiltoghert | Murhann
/ Drumshanbo |
Ardagh | Carrick-on-Shannon | Cavan | Drumshanbo | Barnameenagh |
| John-Q
McTiernan & Barbara |
Drumshanbo (T) |
Leitrim | Leitrim | Kiltoghert | Murhann
/ Drumshanbo |
Ardagh | Carrick-on-Shannon | Cavan | Drumshanbo | Barnameenagh |
| Kevin-UK McTernan (Moira) | TBD | Leitrim | Drumahaire | Kiltoghert | Drumshanbo | Ardagh | Carrick-on-Shannon | Cavan | Drumshanbo | |
| Mary
Traynor |
Leonagh |
Leitrim |
Drumahaire |
Killarga |
Killargue | Kilmore |
Manorhamilton |
Ballina |
Drumahaire | Belhavel |
| Sinead
McTernan |
Drumkeeran |
Leitrim | Drumahaire | Killarga | Killargue | Kilmore | Manorhamilton | Ballina | Drumahaire | Drumkeeran |
| Orla
McTernan |
TBD |
Leitrim | Drumahaire | Killarga | Killargue | Kilmore | Manorhamilton | Ballina | Drumahaire | Drumkeeran |
| SeanJ
McTernan |
TBD |
|||||||||
| SeanSP
McTernan |
TBD |
Leitrim |
||||||||
| Tim or Willie McTiernan | Ballintogher | Sligo | Tirerrill | Killerry | Killanummery / Killerry |
Elphin | Sligo | Ballina | Ballintogher | |
| Tim
McTearnen |
TBD |
|||||||||
| Sam
McTernan (210637) |
TBD |
|||||||||
| Bill
McTernan + MA |
TBD |
Roscommon |
||||||||
| Joe-NY
McTernan (201475) |
TBD |
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| Any female in the above grid must have a male relative with the surname of MacTighernan take the DNA test. | ||||||||||
Gwen Brogdon's McTernan line is from the
townlands of
Killavoggy
and Sweetwood Lower in Co Leitrim. Those two townlands were mentioned
in the last Will of James McTernan of Heapstown and Mountallen, the
ancestor
of Rory MacTiernan. John-Rev's line comes from Killavoggy also. The
latitude N
54.09.00 is the
line running east to west along the north shore of Lough Allen in Co
Leitrim.
The origins of the MacTighernans that know their townland of origin are between the latitudes of N 53.48.35 to N 54.19.50 and the longitudes of W 7.06.20 to W 8.43.48. The Geographic map showing the townland locations by longitude and latitude is at: http://mctiernan.com/McTmaps.htm The specific location in longitude and latitude of known townlands is detailed on this web site along with some early MacTighernan history: http://mctiernan.com/location.htm
This web site gives a very good view of the wider Irish DNA studies for 1750 Irish families. http://www.familytreedna.com/public/IrelandHeritage
The MacTighernan castle ruins is at this
web
site: http://mctiernan.com/castle.htm
A recent study by Brian Mcvoy was conducted at Trinity College Dublin, Ireland, which found that a striking percent of men in Ireland (and quite a few in Scotland) share the same Y chromosome, suggesting that the 5th-century warlord known as "Niall of the Nine Hostages" may be the ancestor of one in 12 Irishmen. Niall established a dynasty of powerful chieftains that dominated the island for six centuries. The T3 Group baseline matches Niall's DNA 23 / 25 so they would descend from Niall, his uncle, his cousin or his brother. The remaining DNA groups in the MacTighernan study are not even close. Details are at this web site: http://www.familytreedna.com/matchnialltest.html
The mutation event difference takes into account false repeats in loci 464a-d that look like mutations but aren't. Michael (Eng)'s has a 3 loci difference with a total of 5 mutations from the T2 baseline. Off the FTdna web site Michael (Eng) shows an mutation event difference of 2 to his T2 baseline not a difference of 3 loci or 5 mutations. All but one of Michael (Eng)'s mutation activity is in the last 4 loci [464a-d] which is the most confusing to score. So I have changed all our scores on how we match up and relate to each other to reflect what the FTdna lab test site says they are. However, the raw scores have not been altered, being listed exactly as they have been reported.
Each tester's scores are valid and
differences are only
considered
mutations
when contrasted to the baseline of their closest DNA group. As
an example all testers that are listed as T + 1 or T + 2 are in the
T Group but show mutations off of the T Group baseline by one or
two. While the
Ta, Tb, Tc, Td & Te testers are outside of the T Group baseline
range
and
in their
own specific group their mutations are still compared to the T Group
baseline. The T3a through the T3e groups are outside the T3 Group
baseline range as
well and their mutations are also shown off the T3 Group baseline.
All testers in the T2 Group likewise show mutations
against the T2 Group baseline. The T4 Group stands alone.
| Scores MacTighernan actual raw test scores for the 16 DNA groups Each of the groups are in a different color. Single step mutations off a baseline in the below grid are in red ( ) and 2 or 3 step mutations are in dark blue [ ] The testers in the left column that are the baselines for each of their individual 16 DNA groups have a light red background These are raw scores compared to the baseline of the 3 major groups, e.g. Te Group compared to the T Group, event mutations differences may be less than raw scores |
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| Individual
kits & 16 DNA Groups |
1 |
2 |
3 |
4 |
5 |
6 |
7 |
8 |
9 |
10 |
11 |
12 |
13 |
14 |
15 |
16 |
17 |
18 |
19 |
20 |
21 |
22 |
23 |
24 |
25 |
|
393 |
390 |
19 / 394 |
391 |
385a |
385b |
426 |
388 |
439 |
389i |
392 |
389ii |
458 |
459a |
459b |
455 |
454 |
447 |
437 |
448 |
449 |
464 a |
464 b |
464 c |
464 d |
|
|
Mark
673 T, Tony 106135 T
Martin 3713 T Michael (CN) 3436 T Rory 1029 T John (ST) 49265 T Thomas (CA) 17363 T John-P 134141 T John-Rev 149591 T Hugh-K McKiernan T Gerard 170031 T |
13
|
24 |
14
|
11
|
11
|
14
|
12
|
12
|
12
|
13
|
13
|
30
|
17
|
9
|
9
|
11
|
11
|
25
|
15
|
19
|
29
|
15
|
15
|
17
|
17
|
|
Michael 674 T + 1
|
13
|
24 |
14
|
11
|
11
|
14
|
12
|
12
|
(13)
|
13
|
13
|
30
|
17
|
9
|
9
|
11
|
11
|
25
|
15
|
19
|
29
|
15
|
15
|
17
|
17
|
|
Jim (CA) 646 T + 1
|
13
|
24 |
14
|
11
|
11
|
14
|
12
|
12
|
12
|
13
|
13
|
30
|
17
|
9
|
(10)
|
11
|
11
|
25
|
15
|
19
|
29
|
15
|
15
|
17
|
17
|
| Jim
- SGL 149592 T + 1 |
13 |
24 |
14 |
11 |
11 |
14 |
12 |
12 |
12 |
13 |
13 |
30 |
17 |
9 |
9 |
11 |
11 |
(24) |
15 |
19 |
29 |
15 |
15 |
17 |
17 |
|
Tom 640 T + 1
|
13
|
24 |
14
|
11
|
11
|
14
|
12
|
12
|
12
|
13
|
13
|
30
|
17
|
9
|
9
|
11
|
11
|
(24)
|
15
|
19
|
29
|
15
|
15
|
17
|
17
|
| John-con
164166 T + 1 |
13 |
24 |
14 |
11 |
11 |
14 |
12 |
12 |
12 |
13 |
13 |
30 |
17 |
9 |
9 |
11 |
11 |
(24) |
15 |
19 |
29 |
15 |
15 |
17 |
17 |
| Mike-UK 155833 T + 1 | 13 |
24 |
14 |
11 |
11 |
14 |
12 |
12 |
12 |
13 |
13 |
30 |
17 |
9 |
9 |
11 |
11 |
25 |
15 |
19 |
29 |
(14) |
15 |
17 |
17 |
|
David
(CN) 49264 T + 1
& Bob (CN) 85141 T + 1 |
13 |
24 |
14 |
11 |
11 |
14 |
12 |
12 |
12 |
13 |
13 |
30 |
17 |
9 |
9 |
11 |
11 |
25 |
15 |
19 |
(30) | 15 |
15 |
17 |
17 |
| Douglas 49264 T + 2 | 13 |
24 |
14 |
11 |
11 |
14 |
12 |
12 |
12 |
13 |
13 |
30 |
17 |
9 |
9 |
11 |
11 |
25 |
15 |
19 |
(30) |
15 |
15 |
[15] |
17 |
| Mick 164138 + 2 | 13 |
24 |
14 |
[13] | 11 |
14 |
12 |
12 |
12 |
13 |
13 |
30 |
17 |
9 |
9 |
11 |
11 |
25 |
15 |
19 |
29 |
15 |
15 |
17 |
17 |
| Sean-sol
128785 T + 2 Noel 243950 T - 2 |
13 |
24 |
14 |
11 |
11 |
14 |
12 |
12 |
12 |
13 |
13 |
30 |
17 |
9 |
9 |
11 |
11 |
(24) |
15 |
19 |
(30) |
15 |
15 |
17 |
17 |
|
Michael (NJ) 85140 T + 2
|
13
|
24
|
14
|
(10)
|
11
|
14
|
12
|
12
|
12
|
13
|
13
|
30
|
17
|
9
|
9
|
11
|
11
|
25
|
15
|
19
|
(30)
|
15
|
15
|
17
|
17
|
| Larry
26554 T + 2 |
13 |
24 |
14 |
11 |
11 |
14 |
12 |
12 |
12 |
13 |
(14) |
30 |
17 |
9 |
9 |
11 |
11 |
25 |
15 |
19 |
29 |
15 |
15 |
[15] |
17 |
| Gene
9498
T + 3 |
[10] |
24 |
14 |
11 |
11 |
14 |
12 |
12 |
12 |
13 |
13 |
30 |
17 |
9 |
9 |
11 |
11 |
25 |
15 |
19 |
29 |
15 |
15 |
17 |
17 |
|
Scott
(AU) 639 T a Group
Richard 135598 T a Group Adrian 106134 T a Group |
13 |
24 |
14 |
11 |
11 |
14 |
12 |
(13) |
12 |
13 |
13 |
30 |
17 |
9 |
9 |
11 |
11 |
25 |
15 |
19 |
29 |
15 |
15 |
(16) |
(16) |
| John
(USA) 635 T b Group |
13
|
24 |
14
|
11
|
11
|
14
|
12
|
12
|
12
|
13
|
13
|
30
|
(18)
|
9
|
9
|
11
|
11
|
25
|
15
|
19
|
[27]
|
15
|
15
|
(16)
|
17
|
| Chris
McTurnan 31886 T c Group |
13 |
24 |
14 |
11 |
11 |
14 |
12 |
12 |
(11) |
13 |
13 |
30 |
17 |
9 |
(10) |
11 |
11 |
25 |
15 |
19 |
(30) | 15 |
15 |
[15] |
17 |
| John
Frank 117676 T d Group |
13 |
24 |
14 |
11 |
11 |
14 |
12 |
12 |
(13) |
13 |
13 |
(29) |
(18) |
9 |
(10) |
11 |
11 |
25 |
15 |
19 |
(30) |
(14) |
(14) |
17 |
17 |
| Myles
187076 T e Group |
13 |
24 |
14 |
11 |
11 |
14 |
12 |
12 |
(13) |
13 |
13 |
(29) |
17 |
9 |
(10) |
11 |
11 |
(26) |
15 |
19 |
29 |
(14) |
(14) |
(16) |
17 |
| Colin
187078 T f Group |
13 |
24 |
14 |
11 |
11 |
14 |
12 |
12 |
12 |
13 |
13 |
30 |
17 |
9 |
9 |
11 |
11 |
25 |
15 |
19 |
[27] |
(14) |
15 |
17 |
17 |
| Geoffrey
3435 T2 Bernie 2145 T2 Max 71428 T2 Eugene 128783 T2 Jim-SP 155834 T2 KevinM 17332 T2 Mike-PA 175937 T2 Mike-Eng 172135 T2 Jerry 251863 T2 Barry 201474 T2 |
13 |
24 |
14 |
11 |
11 |
14 |
12 |
12 |
13 |
13 |
13 |
29 |
17 |
9 |
10 |
11 |
11 |
25 |
14 | 19 | 31 |
15 |
15 |
16 |
19 |
| Greg
149593 T2 + 1 |
13 |
(25) |
14 |
11 |
11 |
14 |
12 |
12 |
13 |
13 |
13 |
29 |
17 |
9 |
10 |
11 |
11 |
25 |
14 |
19 |
31 |
15 |
15 |
16 |
19 |
| Adam
19343 T2 + 1 |
13 |
24 |
14 |
11 |
11 |
14 |
12 |
12 |
13 |
13 |
13 |
29 |
17 |
9 |
(9) |
11 |
11 |
25 |
14 |
19 |
31 |
15 |
15 |
16 |
19 |
| SeanM
261248 T2 + 1 |
13 |
24 |
14 |
11 |
11 |
14 |
12 |
12 |
(12) |
13 |
13 |
29 |
17 |
9 |
10 |
11 |
11 |
25 |
14 |
19 |
31 |
15 |
15 |
16 |
19 |
| Philip
146792 T2 + 1 |
13 |
24 |
14 |
11 |
11 |
14 |
12 |
12 |
13 |
13 |
13 |
29 |
17 |
9 |
10 |
11 |
11 |
25 |
14 |
19 |
(32) |
15 |
15 |
16 |
19 |
| Kevin-mus 134142 T2 + 2 | 13 |
24 |
14 |
11 |
11 |
14 |
12 |
12 |
(12) |
13 |
13 |
29 |
17 |
9 |
10 |
11 |
11 |
25 |
14 |
19 |
(32) |
15 |
15 |
16 |
19 |
| Michael
(Eng) 5449 T2 + 2 |
13 |
24 |
14 |
11 |
11 |
14 |
12 |
12 |
(14) |
13 |
13 |
29 |
17 |
9 |
10 |
11 |
11 |
25 |
14 |
19 |
31 |
15 |
15 |
(15) |
[16] |
| Paul 73917 T2 + 2 | 13 |
24 |
14 |
(12) |
11 |
(13) |
12 |
12 |
13 |
13 |
13 |
29 |
17 |
9 |
10 |
11 |
11 |
25 |
14 |
19 |
31 |
15 |
15 |
16 |
19 |
| Jim
(P) 63418 T2 + 2 |
(14) |
24 |
14 |
11 |
11 |
14 |
12 |
12 |
(12) |
13 |
13 |
29 |
17 |
9 |
10 |
11 |
11 |
25 |
14 |
19 |
31 |
15 |
15 |
16 |
19 |
| Dan-W
187077 T2 + 3 |
14 |
24 |
14 |
11 |
11 |
14 |
12 |
12 |
(12) |
13 |
13 |
29 |
17 |
9 |
10 |
11 |
11 |
25 |
14 |
19 |
31 |
15 |
15 |
(15) |
[16] |
| Patsy
121177 T2 a |
13 |
24 |
14 |
11 |
11 |
14 |
12 |
12 |
(12) |
13 |
13 |
29 |
17 |
9 |
9 |
11 |
11 |
25 |
14 |
19 |
31 |
16 |
16 |
18 |
18 |
| Nigel
261247 T2 a |
13 |
24 |
14 |
11 |
11 |
14 |
12 |
12 |
(13) |
13 |
13 |
29 |
17 |
9 |
9 |
11 |
11 |
25 |
14 |
19 |
31 |
16 |
16 |
18 |
18 |
| The
O'Conor Don Cathal Crovderg O'Conor |
12 |
25 |
14 |
11 |
11 |
13 |
12 |
12 |
12 |
13 |
14 |
29 |
16 |
9 |
11 |
11 |
11 |
25 |
14 |
18 |
30 |
15 |
16 |
16 |
17 |
| Philip
O'Rorke 2099 The O'Ruairc of Bréifne |
13 | 25 | 15 |
11 |
11 |
14 |
12 |
12 |
11 |
13 |
15 |
29 |
17 |
9 |
10 |
11 |
11 |
25 |
15 |
19 |
30 |
15 |
15 |
16 |
17 |
| Sean 128785 T3 d Group Paul-NI 180027 T3 d Group |
13 |
25 |
14 |
10 |
11 |
12 |
12 |
12 |
12 |
13 |
14 |
29 |
17 |
9 |
10 |
11 |
11 |
25 |
15 |
18 |
30 |
16 |
16 |
16 |
17 |
| Thady
138618 T3 d Group |
13 |
25 |
14 |
10 | 11 |
(13) |
12 |
12 |
12 |
13 |
14 |
(30) |
17 |
9 |
10 |
11 |
11 |
25 |
15 |
18 |
30 |
16 |
16 |
16 |
17 |
| JohnL
269707 T2 d Group |
13 |
25 |
14 |
10 | 11 |
(13) |
12 |
12 |
12 |
(14) |
14 |
(30) |
17 |
9 |
10 |
11 |
11 |
25 |
15 |
18 |
30 |
16 |
16 |
16 |
17 |
| Peter 138619 T3 e Group | (12) | 25 |
14 |
11 |
11 |
[15] | 12 |
12 |
12 |
(14) | (13) | (30) | 17 |
9 |
10 |
11 |
11 |
25 |
(15) | (19) | 30 |
(14) | (15) | (16) | 17 |
| Ed
(NJ) 8723 T3 c Group |
13 |
25 |
14 |
(10) |
11 |
[11] |
12 |
12 |
12 |
13 |
14 |
29 |
(18) |
9 |
10 |
11 |
11 |
25 |
(15) |
18 |
30 |
15 |
16 |
17 |
17 |
| Kevin-CN 171485 T3
c Group |
13 |
25 |
14 |
(10) | 11 |
[11] |
12 |
12 |
12 |
13 |
14 |
29 |
(18) |
9 |
10 |
11 |
11 |
(26) |
(15) |
18 |
30 |
15 |
16 |
17 |
17 |
| Gus
8724 T3 b Group |
13 |
25 |
14 |
11 |
11 |
13 |
12 |
12 |
12 |
13 |
14 |
29 |
(16) |
9 |
10 |
11 |
11 |
(26) |
(15) |
18 |
30 |
15 |
(15) |
(16) |
17 |
| David
(NJ) 2392
T3 a Group, John C. 637 T3 a Group & Cathal-NI 243949 T3 a Group |
13 |
25 |
14 |
11 |
11 |
13 |
12 |
12 |
12 |
13 |
14 |
(28) |
17 |
9 |
10 |
11 |
11 |
25 |
14 |
18 |
(29) |
15 |
16 |
(16) |
17 |
| Charles
638 T3 + 2 Gary 164167 T3 + 2 |
13 |
25 |
14 |
11 |
11 |
13 |
12 |
12 |
12 |
13 |
14 |
(30) |
17 |
9 |
10 |
11 |
11 |
25 |
14 |
18 |
30 |
15 |
16 |
(16) |
17 |
| Lary-CT
175938 T3 + 2 |
13 |
25 |
14 |
11 |
11 |
13 |
12 |
12 |
(13) |
13 |
14 |
29 |
17 |
9 |
10 |
11 |
11 |
25 |
14 |
18 |
30 |
15 |
(15) |
17 |
17 |
| Paul-UK
171484 T3 + 1 |
13 |
25 |
14 |
11 |
11 |
13 |
12 |
12 |
(13) |
13 |
14 |
29 |
17 |
9 |
10 |
11 |
11 |
25 |
14 |
18 |
30 |
15 |
16 |
17 |
17 |
| Jim
III 122584 T3
+ 1 |
13 |
25 |
14 |
11 |
11 |
13 |
12 |
12 |
12 |
13 |
14 |
29 |
(18) |
9 |
10 |
11 |
11 |
25 |
14 |
18 |
30 |
15 |
16 |
17 |
17 |
| Joe
1028 T3 + 1 |
13 |
25 |
14 |
11 |
11 |
13 |
12 |
12 |
12 |
13 |
(15) |
29 |
17 |
9 |
10 |
11 |
11 |
25 |
14 |
18 |
30 |
15 |
16 |
17 |
17 |
| Niall
of the 9
hostages |
13 |
25 |
14 |
11 |
11 |
13 |
12 |
12 |
12 |
13 |
14 |
29 |
17 |
9 |
10 |
11 |
11 |
25 |
(15) |
18 |
30 |
15 |
16 |
(16) |
17 |
| Leo
21151 T 3 Jim (NJ) 1010 T 3 Eoghan 636 T 3 Jim (MA) 9497 T 3 Scott (CO) 5451 T 3 John W 31885 T 3 Cathal 117675 T 3 Sean-SF 135597 T 3 Edwin John McTiernan 201472 T 3 |
13 |
25 |
14 |
11 |
11 |
13 |
12 |
12 |
12 |
13 |
14 |
29 |
17 |
9 |
10 |
11 |
11 |
25 |
14 |
18 |
30 |
15 |
16 |
17 |
17 |
| Warren
McTernan 251864 T 4 |
13 |
22 |
13 |
10 |
14 |
16 |
12 |
12 |
12 |
13 |
15 |
29 |
17 |
9 |
9 |
11 |
11 |
25 |
14 |
19 |
29 |
14 |
15 |
15 |
16 |
This site for the DNA rules of the road and tells how an individual that is not a MacTighernan might have a DNA match but still not be related: http://mctiernan.com/dnarules.htm
The results from a search of the
Haplogroup
database not
only
provides information about our deep ancestral history,
but the outcome can also be used to analyze Y Chromosome
results. Since the Haplogroups
are the branches, and the Haplotypes
are the leaves of the tree, if any of the MacTighernans
belong to different branches, no matter how close their Y DNA test
results were, the individuals are not related. So far with the
exception of Warren we are all on the
same branch. Fifth teen of the separate MacTighernan DNA Groups,
and Philip
O'Rorke fall into the larger DNA group
called the Haplogroup R-M269 (old R1b) which is the most common
haplogroup in European populations. It is believed to have
expanded throughout Europe as humans re-colonized after the last
glacial maximum 10-12 thousand years ago. The R-M269 (old R1b) lineage
is also the
haplogroup containing the Atlantic modal haplotype. Warren is in
the T4 DNA group and forms the 16th DNA group. Rather than the
R-M269 (old R1b) Haplogroup Warren is in the Q Haplogroup.
We MacTighernans may have overcome the haplogroup effect by accident by having all the testers with the same surname and almost all originating from the same small 450 sq. mile area in Connacht [Cos. Sligo, Leitrim and Cavan] in Ireland. While our test was really random, we may have covered the problem of the haplogroup by those 2 conditions. Even though the origin of everyone's surname is 1120 more or less, 3 mutations or rather mutation event differences from your group's baseline means that you are most likely not related. This is a general rule based on where the understanding of mutation activity is at this point in time. Gene and Scott (AU) both scored 22 / 25 with the T Group baseline. Scott (AU)'s 3 mutations are spread over 3 different loci [markers] and Gene's are all in one locus. Gene's had what is called a radical mutation and hence is still included in the T Group due to his radical mutation of 3, only in locus #1. Scott (AU)'s 3 mutations are spread over 3 different loci and hence he forms his own separate DNA group Ta which is one of the 16 DNA Group baselines. JohnL is a 22 / 25 match to the T3d baseline but is related to Thady and to Sean who is in the T3d baseline. A match of 23 / 25 or better with one of the 16 DNA groups means you genetically relate to that group.
The scores above are directly from the lab's web site. Locus 22 through and including locus 25 which is DYS 464 a-d have the following characteristics and are why the FTdna web site is used to match our test results by mutation event differences vs specific mutations or loci [category] differences.
This web site
http://www.wfu.edu/alb atross/gcircle/calcfull.html [there is
an underscore between alb_atross] will enable you to type in your lat
and long and then another MacTighernan's lat and
long
and see what the distance is between the two townlands in the above
grid in nautical miles as the crow flies. As an example in the
T3 Group baseline, Leo's
and Eoghan's townland of Ummeyroe in Co Sligo is only 6.65 nautical
miles from Jim (NJ)'s and Brian's townland of Tullycorka in Co Leitrim
and only 2.65 nautical miles from Jim (MA)'s townland of Tap in Co
Sligo.
You may want to read the two page description and explanation of all the DNA facts; mutations, rules and matches as to what they mean etc. at this web site http://mctiernan.com/dnarules.htm
The MLE (Most Likely Estimate
of
WHEN
that common ancestor lived is
the real question. This web site
http://nitro.biosci.arizona.edu/ftdna/TMRCA.html does a very
good job of explaining the distance in generations to a common ancestor
based on the mutation
event frequencies
All of our DNA testing is done at
Family
Tree DNA
http://www.familytreedna.com
List of MacTighernans and townlands
from
the 1847 - 1864
Griffith's Valuations
A great new web site
courtesy of
John
Hunter that offers
photos of Ireland taken by anyone:
http://www.geograph.org.uk/explore/places/2/ie-14/
Eoghan McTiernan's extensive family web site is at http://www.e.mctiernan.btinternet.co.uk/Welcome.html
On my maternal side I descend from Tara, rather a subclade of the T group which is T4. This T Group has nothing to do with our T Group in the MacTighernan DNA test. Tara was one of the 7 European daughters of Eve
Even
though I am a male McTiernan, my mother was a Fries and her mother was
a Blaies and her mother was a Bender so I have their mtDNA but my
children would not. The mtDNA is passed down maternally not paternally
so my children would have their mother's mtDNA not mine. This maternal
mtDNA tracking is better explained at http://mctiernan.com/mtdna.htm
Might we all end up 'Hiberniores Hibernis ipsis' (more Irish than the Irish themselves).