The goal is to map all MacTighernans both genetically and geographically. The Gaelic name of MacTighernan is used for all of us regardless of our spelling. As of the date above the 137 MacTighernans fall into 20 separate DNA groups, Eleven of which have only 1 MacTighernan. Those in the above chart with the same color are in the same DNA Group. The 137 testers live in 13 countries on 5 continents at the time of testing. You can see the total DNA testers in the above chart with the baselines of the 3 main DNA groups being bigger nodes than the others. The T Group, T3 Group and the T2 Group are referred to as main only because at this point in time 101 of the 137 MacTighernans tested fall in these 3 groups, 48 in the T Group, 21 in the T3 Group, and 32 in the T2 Group leaving 34 McTighernans in other DNA groups that are not genetically related. None of the 20 distinct DNA Groups of MacTighernans relate to any other DNA Groups. MacTighernans in 12 groups of the 20 are by themselves in their own DNA group. Regardless of numerical size, all 20 DNA Groups are of equal standing.
Although 89 of the 137 originate
from Co Leitrim, no one DNA group comes from just one county. Therefore
as of now the origins of us all are spread over Cos Leitrim, Sligo,
Roscommon and Cavan with Gus, David (CN), Greg & Hugh being
the
exceptions. Gus', Terry's, Michael-NJ's & MichaelS' verbal family
history says Scotland was their family's origin and David (CN) verbal
family history states that his family comes from the Killarney Lakes
region in Co Kerry. James' family history says
Co. Mayo was the
family's origin. Michael (CN) & Hugh's family history says Co Cork
was their origin. The origin of almost all MacTighernans is from the
450 sq. mile
small green area on the map at left that falls in the area from N
53.48.35 to N 54.19.50 degrees to W 7.06.20 to W 8.43.48 degrees.
Besides the MacTighernans, Philip O'Rorke who is The
O'Ruairc
of Bréifne and the O'Conor Don are also shown in the above chart. The
O'Rorke family DNA test web site is at
http://www.familytreedna.com/public/roark/. The
O'Conor DNA web site is http://www.worldfamilies.net/surnames/c/conner/disc.html.
The Genetic and Geographic
orgins
maps of all 137 MacTighernans testers are at this web site: http://mctiernan.com/McTmaps.htm
If you have at least a match of 24/25 or 23/25 meaning a 1 or 2 mutation event difference to the baseline of a specific DNA group you still genetically relate to them and the probability of a close relationship is good, however the results show mutations and more time has elapsed between the common ancestor for yourself and the others in your DNA group baseline. With a 3 mutation event difference, [22/25] you do not relate and are genetically outside of your closest DNA group.
The general DNA rule is that if you have 3
mutations or rather 3 event mutation differences
off the closest baseline you would not genetically relate and would
form your own separate DNA group. Even though both Gene and Scott (AU)
have 3 mutations off the T Group baseline, Gene is positioned in the T
Group as his 3 mutations are all in one locus whereas Scott (AU)'s 3
mutations are scattered over 3 different loci thereby forming his own
DNA Group, Ta. Gene's mutation
is thought by the lab to be a radical mutation being 3 mutations
different than the baseline but only in locus # 1. Gene matches the T
Group baseline in loci 24 / 25. Locus or loci equals category /
marker. While JohnL is a 22 / 25 match to the T3d group baseline
he is a cousin to Thady and a cousin to Sean in the baseline, so
JohnL is positioned in the T3d group. MichaelS is a 22 / 25 match
to the T Group baseline but he does match Michael-NJ 24 / 25 and Bob-CN
& David-CN 23 /25 so he too is in the T DNA Group.
Dan-W and Roy Rice match the T2 Group baseline 22 / 25 and normally would form their own separate DNA group but because they both matches Jim-P in the T2 Group 24 out of 25 I have listed Dan-W and Roy Rice in the T2 DNA Group.
The below is no more than a guess that shows the correlated structure of our 20 DNA groups as they mutated down through time. Surnames came into use about 1140 and the MacTighernan lines below may descend from 7 different progenitors that lived over 2000 years ago or 70 generations back in time in the BC era. Remember all mutations are random and Y chromosome mutations occur once on average every 500 generations per locus [category / marker].
The remaining DNA question in our bunch is if one
of us is off a specific baseline by 3 or 4 mutations or rather event mutations which
implies that you are in a whole separate and distinct DNA group not
genetically related to that group's baseline or your common ancestor is
well beyond 2000 years or 70 generations back in time then that leaves
the question of how we all ended up with identical surnames, if
surnames only began in the mid 1100s. My guess is that way back in time
before surnames came into use there existed in or around Cos Leitrim,
Sligo, Roscommon or Cavan a tribe or clan whose leader was called
Tiernan or MacTighernan. In Gaelic, Tiernan means Lord and MacTighernan
means "son of Lord". When
surnames first
started all the male warriors might have just taken the chief's name
for themselves which might be a reasonable explanation or guess as to
how we all ended up in 20 different and distinct genetic groups from
one small
area of Connacht, Ireland all with the same surname. or close variant
MacTighernan DNA groups tested to date. A score of 25 out of 25 markers is a perfect match and all the perfect matches form that group's baseline. 23 or 24 out of 25 puts you in the same DNA group |
Location of MacTighernan tester at time of test | Identified MacTighernans |
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DNA Group |
Perfect Match ( in baseline of each group) |
Total in Group |
USA |
57 |
214 |
|
T |
27 |
48 |
|
Ireland |
28 |
41 |
Ta |
4 |
4 |
|
England | 23 |
63 |
T2 |
20 |
33 |
|
Canada | 8 |
11 |
T2a |
2 |
2 |
Australia | 5 |
36 |
|
T3 |
11 |
21 |
|
Indonesia | 2 |
2 |
T3a |
8 |
9 |
|
Zimbabwe | 1 |
1 |
T3c |
2 |
4 |
Iraq | 1 |
1 |
|
T3d |
2 |
4 |
|
Scotland | 5 |
80 |
Tb, Tc, Td, Te, Tf, Tg, T3b, T3e, T4,
T5, T6 & T7 |
1 in each
of the 12 groups |
12 |
Northern Ireland | 4 |
18 |
|
|
New Zealand | 1 |
5 |
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|
South Africa | 1 |
1 |
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Spain |
1 |
1 |
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Wales |
4 |
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|
Japan | 1 |
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Total |
137 | |
Switzerland | 1 |
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Thiland,
Vietnam & Belgium |
3 |
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|
Total | 137 |
487 |
Since the Haplogroups are the branches and the Haplotypes are the leaves of the tree, if any of the MacTighernans were to belong to different branches, no matter how close their Y chromosome DNA test results were, the individuals are not related. With the exception of Warren, all MacTighernans, The O'Ruairc and the O'Conor Don are in the same Haplogroup therefore on the same branch.
This is the newer chart used now by the Family Tree DNA lab for haplogroup categories
Haplogroup |
MacTighernan
tester's DNA haplogroup |
older nomenclature |
R-M269 |
128
MacTighernans over 20 DNA groups |
R1b1a2 |
R-Z18491 | Michael
& |
|
R-M222 |
Leo (T3 baseline) |
R1b1a2a1a1b4b |
R-M173 |
Gary,
Charles, Paul-C, John-C, Edwin, David-NJ & JohnV |
R1ada |
Q-M242 |
Warren
(T4 baseline) |
Where the MacTighernans fall in each Haplogroup | DNA Group | total | |
R1b1a2 | All testers are in this group except the ones below | All but below | 93 |
R-Z18491 | Michael
& |
T Group |
2 |
R1b1a2a1a1b4b | Leo | T3 Group | 4 |
R1b1a2a1a1b4 | All in the T and T3 Groups |
T & T3 Group |
37 |
Q-M242 | Warren |
T4 |
1 |
R1b1a2 | The O'Ruairc: Philip O'Rorke | |
|
R1b1a2a1a1b4b | The O'Conor Don: Cathal Crovderg O'Conor | ||
Total | |
|
137 |
MacTighernan Testers County or Country of Origin | |||||||||||
DNA Group | Leitrim | Sligo | Kerry |
Ros- common |
Cavan | Mayo |
Cork |
Long- ford |
Scotland | Unknown | Total |
T | 33 |
1 |
1 |
1 |
2 |
1 |
9 |
48 |
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Ta | 2 |
1 |
1 |
4 |
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Tb | 1 |
1 |
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Tc |
1 |
1 |
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Td | 1 |
1 |
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Te |
1 |
1 |
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Tf |
1 |
1 |
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Tg |
1 |
1 |
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T2 | 23 |
2 |
1 |
7 |
33 |
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T2a |
2 |
2 |
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T3 | 12 |
5 |
2 |
2 |
21 |
||||||
T3a | 6 |
2 |
1 |
9 |
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T3b | 1 |
1 |
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T3c | 2 |
1 |
1 |
4 |
|||||||
T3d | 4 |
4 |
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T3e | 1 |
1 |
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T4 |
1 |
1 |
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T5 |
1 |
1 |
|||||||||
T6 |
1 |
1 |
|||||||||
T7 |
1 |
1 |
|||||||||
Total | 89 |
9 |
1 |
3 |
4 |
1 |
2 |
0 |
2 |
26 |
137 |
TBR | 1 |
4 |
5 |
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Transferred |
1 |
1 |
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in process at lab |
R1b1a2 probably appeared during Maykop culture. It was
an advanced Neolithic culture of farmers and herders, and one of the
very first to develop metalworking, and therefore metal weapons. Stuck
between two seas and the Caucasus, they imaginably traded actively
around the Black Sea, notably with the other R1b people from northern
Anatolia (those that didn't cross the Caucasus and might be the
ancestors of the Hittites).
R1b1a2 is thought to have arrived in central and western Europe around
2300 BCE, by going up the Danube
from the Black Sea coast.
This corresponds to an archeological vacuum in the old Maykop homeland,
so the migration must have been on a massive scale, maybe due to
pressure from other (R1a) Indo-European people from the north. There
might have been several consecutive waves across the Black Sea to the
Danube, but the largest one between 2500 BCE (end of the Maykop
culture) and 2300 BCE (beginning of the Unetice culture).
In fact, southern Germany and Austria taken together
have the highest ity of R1b in Europe. Besides S21, the three major first
level subclades of R1b1a2a1b (L21, S28, M167) are found in this area at
reasonable frequencies to envisage a spread from the Unetice to
Hallstatt homeland to the rest of western Europe.
The site is http://www.eupedia.com/europe/origins_haplogroups_europe.shtml click on the R1b and look at the
English version
Excluding the DNA testers and their families, there are less than 400 additional MacTighernans identified living in Ireland and the 4 major immigration countries, USA, Australia, Canada and England. See http://mctiernan.com/dnatest.htm for MacTighernan breakdown by country.
Waiting for test kits to be returned TBR: SeanP, JohnB, Alan Mitchell & Nick-MI with Mike-LA's scores being transffered
In process waiting for the lab results TBD:
The Great MacTighernan Mysteries, http://mctiernan.com/10mysteries.htm
Our DNA raw scores, townlands of origin, DNA matches and ancestor lines for all 20 Groups are at http://mctiernan.com/dnatest.htm
A photo of the MacTighernans at the March 13, 2004 & March 15, 2003 Co Leitrim Society dinner in NYC http://mctiernan.com/NYCphoto.htm
The Rules of the DNA test and a good explanation as to what they indicate are at this web site; http://mctiernan.com/dnarules.htm
This https://owlcation.com/stem/Irish-Blood-Genetic-Identity web site and the other gives a very good view of the wider Irish DNA studies for 1750 Irish families, http://www.familytreedna.com/public/IrelandHeritage
To run the tree sequence use: median joining
with
myPH.ych to myPH.out to draw
If you are a male McTernan / McTiernan / MacTiernan and want to participate in this family DNA study please let me know. If you own a bank then I would hope you would pay for the test. If like many of us you are wondering who might pay the bills this month then I would pay the cost of the test as this is my only hobby.
Michael McTiernan michael@mctiernan.com