
The goal is to map
all MacTighernans both geneticly and geographicly. As
of the date above the 73 MacTighernans tested fall
into 14 separate DNA groups. Those
in
the
above chart with the same color are in the same DNA Group. The 73
testers live in 10 countries on
5 continents at the time of testing. You can see the total DNA testers
in
the above chart with the baselines of the 3 main DNA groups being
bigger nodes than the
others. The T Group, T3 Group and the T2 Group are
referred to as main
only because at this point in time 56 of the 73 MacTighernans
tested fall in
these 3 groups, 25 in the T Group, 15 in the T3 Group and the T2
Group now with 16. All 14 DNA Groups are
of equal standing.
Although 48 of the 73 originate
from Co
Leitrim, no one DNA group
comes from just one county. Therefore as of now the origins of us
all
are spread
over Cos Leitrim,
Sligo, Roscommon and Cavan with Gus, Michael (NJ) and Douglas
being the
exceptions.
Gus'
and Michael (NJ)'s verbal family history says Scotland was their
family's origin and Douglas verbal family history states that his
family comes from the Killarney Lakes region. The origin of
almost all MacTighernans
is from the 450 sq. mile small green area on the map at left that falls
in the area from N 53.48.35 to N 54.19.50 degrees to W 7.06.20 to W
8.43.48 degrees. Besides
the 73 MacTighernans,
Philip O'Rorke who is The
O'Ruairc
of Bréifne is also shown in
the above
chart. The O'Rorke family DNA test web site is at
http://www.familytreedna.com/public/roark/.
The Genetic and Geographic maps of all identified
MacTighernans are at this web site: http://mctiernan.com/McTmaps.htm
If
you have at least a match of 24/25 or 23/25 meaning a 1 or 2 mutation
event
difference to the baseline of a DNA group you still relate to them and
the
probability of a close
relationship is
good, however the results show mutations and more time
has elapsed between the common ancestor for yourself and the others in
your DNA group baseline. With a 3 mutation event
difference [22/25] you do not relate and are genetically
outside of your
closest DNA group.
The general DNA rule
is
that if
you have 3 mutations or rather 3 event mutation differences
off the closest baseline you would not genetically relate and would
form your own
separate DNA
group. Even though both Gene and Scott (AU) have 3 mutations off the T
Group
baseline, Gene is positioned in the T Group as his 3 mutations
are all in one locus whereas Scott (AU)'s 3
mutations are scattered over 3 different loci thereby forming his own
DNA Group, Ta. Gene's mutation
is
thought to be a
radical
mutation being 3 mutations different than the baseline but only in
locus
#
1. Gene
matches the T
Group
baseline in loci 24 / 25. Locus or loci equals catagory / marker.
Dan-W matches the T2 Group baseline 22 / 25 and
normally
would form his own separate DNA group but because he matches Jim-P in
the T2 Group 24 out of
25 I have listed Dan-W in the T2 DNA Group.
The below is no more than a guess that shows the
correlated
structure of the 14 DNA groups as they mutated down through time.
Surnames came into
use about 1140 and the MacTighernan lines below may descend from 2
different
progenitors that lived over 2000 years or 70 generations back in time
in the BC era. Remember all mutations are random and Y chromosome
mutations occur once
on average every 500
generations per locus [catagory/marker].
The remaining DNA question in our bunch is if one of us is off a specific baseline by 3 or 4 mutations or rather event mutations which implies that you are in a whole separate and distinct DNA group not genetically related to that baseline or your common ancestor is well beyond 2000 years or 70 generations back in time then that leaves the question of how we all ended up with identical surnames, if surnames only began in the mid 1100s. A guess is that way back in time before surnames came into use there existed in or around Cos Leitrim, Sligo, Roscommon and Cavan a tribe or clan whose leader was called MacTighernan. In Gaelic, MacTighernan means "son of Lord". When surnames first started all the male warriors might have just taken the chief's name for themselves which might be a reasonable explanation or guess as to how we all ended up in 14 different genetic groups from one small area of Connacht, Ireland all with the same surname.
The MacTighernans are mentioned in the Annals of the Four Masters as descending from the O'Conors, the past high kings of Ireland and also from The O'Ruaircs who were kings of Drumahaire. The O'Conor family has started their own DNA test which is at http://www.worldfamilies.net/surnames/c/conner/disc.html
Your position in this
phylogenetic tree chart
displayed earlier is really determined by how far away you are from
each
other based on event
mutation differences. In the earlier
polygenetic tree chart, the angle or what side of the line
you are on is
of no consequence. Our genetic
relationship is
determined by
event
mutation
differences which is
derived from a formula used by the FTdna lab to
determine the genetic distance between each of us. Eight of the
14
DNA groups have
only one individual which means by default they become the baseline for
their
group.
| MacTighernan DNA
groups tested to date. A score of 25 out of 25 markers is a perfect match and forms that group's baseline. 23 or 24 out of 25 puts you in the same DNA group |
Location of tester at time of test for the 73 MacTighernans |
191 Identified MacTighernans |
||||
| DNA Group |
Perfect Match ( in baseline of each group) |
Total in Group |
USA |
33 |
94 |
|
| T |
11 |
25 |
Ireland |
13 |
24 |
|
| Ta |
3 |
3 |
England | 14 |
38 |
|
| T2 |
8 |
16 |
Canada | 6 |
10 |
|
| T3 |
9 |
15 |
Australia | 2 |
8 |
|
| T3a |
2 |
2 |
Indonesia | 1 |
1 |
|
| T3c |
2 |
Zimbabwe | 1 |
1 |
||
| T3d |
2 |
3 |
Iraq | 1 |
1 |
|
| Tb,
Tc,
Td,
Te, Tf, T3b, &
T3e |
1 in
each
of
the 7 groups |
7 |
Scotland | 1 |
8 |
|
| Northern Ireland | 1 |
2 |
||||
| Spain | 1 |
|||||
| Total |
73
|
Norway | 1 |
|||
| Japan | 1 |
|||||
| TBR |
4 |
Switzerland | 1 |
|||
| in process at lab | 1 |
Total | 73 |
191 | ||
The results from a search of the Haplogroup
database not
only
provides information about our deep ancestral history, but the outcome
can also be used to analyze our Y Chromosome results. Since the Haplogroups
are the branches
and the Haplotypes are the leaves of the tree, if any
of the MacTighernans were to belong to different branches, no matter
how close their Y chromosome DNA test results were, the individuals are
not related. All MacTighernans and
The O'Ruairc are in
the same Haplogroup therefore on the same branch. 'Hiberniores
Hibernis
ipsis' (more Irish than the Irish themselves).
This chart has info on the Haplogroup and the sub sections of the R1b1a2 Haplogroup.
| Where the MacTighernans fall in each Haplogroup | DNA
Group |
total |
|
| R1b1a2 | All testers
are in this group
except the ones below |
All |
69 |
| R1b1a2a1a1b4b | Leo, Scott
(CO) & Jim (MA) |
T3
Group |
3 |
| R1b1a2a1a1b4b | Gus |
T3b Group | 1 |
| R1b1a2 |
The O'Rorke | ||
| Total |
73 |
||

| 73
MacTighernan
Testers County or Country of Origin |
|||||||
| DNA Group |
Leitrim |
Sligo |
Roscommon |
Cavan |
Scotland |
Unknown |
Total |
| T |
17 |
1 |
1 |
6 |
25 |
||
| Ta |
2 |
1 |
3 |
||||
| Tb |
1 |
1 |
|||||
| Tc |
1 |
1 |
|||||
| Td |
1 |
1 |
|||||
| Te |
1 |
1 |
|||||
| Tf |
1 |
1 |
|||||
| T3 |
10 |
3 |
1 |
1 |
15 |
||
| T3a |
1 |
1 |
2 |
||||
| T3b |
1 |
1 |
|||||
| T3c |
1 |
1 |
2 |
||||
| T3d |
3 |
3 |
|||||
| T3e | 1 |
1 |
|||||
| T2 |
10 |
1 |
5 |
16 |
|||
| Total |
48 |
4 |
3 |
2 |
15 |
73 |
|
| TBR |
2 |
2 |
4 |
||||
| in
process at lab |
1 |
1 |
|||||
R1b1a2 probably appeared during Maykop culture.
It was an advanced Neolithic culture of farmers and herders, and one of
the very first to develop metalworking, and therefore metal weapons.
Stuck between two seas and the Caucasus, they imaginably traded
actively around the Black Sea, notably with the other R1b people from
northern Anatolia (those that didn't cross the Caucasus and might be
the ancestors of the Hittites).
R1b1a2 is thought to have arrived in central and western Europe around
2300 BCE, by going up the Danube
from the Black Sea coast.
This corresponds to an archeological vacuum in the old Maykop homeland,
so the migration must have been on a massive scale, maybe due to
pressure from other (R1a) Indo-European people from the north. There
might have been several consecutive waves across the Black Sea to the
Danube, but the largest one between 2500 BCE (end of the Maykop
culture) and 2300 BCE (beginning of the Unetice culture).
In fact, southern Germany and Austria taken together
have the highest diversity of R1b in Europe.
Besides S21, the three major first level subclades of R1b1a2a1b (L21,
S28, M167) are found in this area at reasonable frequencies to envisage
a spread from the Unetice to Hallstatt homeland to the rest of western
Europe.
The site is http://www.eupedia.com/europe/origins_haplogroups_europe.shtml
click on the R1b and look at the English version
Excluding the DNA testers and their families, there are less than 600 additional MacTighernans identified living in the 4 major immigration countries, USA, Australia, Canada, England and Ireland. See http://mctiernan.com/dnatest.htm for MacTighernan breakdown by country.
Waiting for test kits to be returned TBR:
JohnT, Joe-Bel, Joe-NY & Sam
In process
waiting
for the lab results: Patsey
Hoping he
will take the test: Desmond O'Conor, The O'Conor Don
The Great MacTighernan Mysteries, http://mctiernan.com/10mysteries.htm
Our DNA raw scores, townlands of origin, DNA matches and ancestor lines for all 14 Groups are at http://mctiernan.com/dnatest.htm
A photo of the MacTighernans at the March 13, 2004 & March 15, 2003 Co Leitrim Society dinner in NYC http://mctiernan.com/NYCphoto.htm
The Rules of the DNA test and a good
explanation as
to what they indicate are at this web site;
http://mctiernan.com/dnarules.htm
This web site gives a very good view of the wider Irish DNA studies for 1750 Irish families, http://www.familytreedna.com/public/IrelandHeritage
To run the tree sequence use: reduced meridan to
myPH.ych to myPH.rdf to myPH.rmf to myPH.out to
MP or star to .sto to draw to .sto
RM using .ych to .rmf to .out to draw
If you are a male McTernan / McTiernan
/ MacTiernan
and want to
participate in this DNA study please let me know. We have a special
family group rate at