http://mctiernan.com/10mysteries.htm   11-18-2016        michael@mctiernan.com

The Great Unsolved MacTighernan Mysteries

1. Locate Reverend Stephen's "copybook"    He was interested in historical and Gaelic matters for which he was made a member of the Royal Irish Academy in 1884. In addition, Rev. Stephen McTernan, 1811--1906, was a member of the Societe Generale in Paris, France for which he received an annual sum of money. Reverend Stephen's personal papers were uncovered in 1907, by Rev. Charles Comey, curate of Cloonclare, Manorhamilton. The papers were found in St. Claire's Chapel in Manorhamilton. Cloonclare was in the ancient parish of Cloonloger, now included in the Catholic parish of Drumlease, Co. Leitrim.  More on his personal papers which are called the "Copybook"   Finding this may be a key to unlocking the wider McTernan family history as Rev. Stephen kept this diary from childhood.  Rev Stephen is my 1st cousin, 3 generations removed in the T Group.

2.  Understand the O'Rourke and McTernan connection in the Chapel of Creevelea as it was the traditional burial place of the McTernans of Rockfield, Mount Allen and Heapstown [and Sheskin] where large recumbent flagstones mark their final resting places. In close proximity another memorial links the families of O'Rourke and McTernan and is inscribed as follows: Here lyeth the bodye of Hugh O'Roirk and Catherine McTernan who departed this life May 22, 1721. This is the mysterious gravestone that has the symbols of playing cards, heart, spade, diamond and club along with the etching of a cat.  Tie one of the future DNA testers to  The O'Ruairc of Bréifne whose family were the past kings of Drumahaire in Co Leitrim

3. Tie one of the DNA  testers to James McTernans, of the Rockfield McTernans a British naval surgeon who was in the squadron which protected St. Helena during the residence there of Napoleon, and was present on the island at the death of that distinguished, but unfortunate monarch in 1821. James was also the surgeon on a British warship in the Chesapeak Bay in the War of 1812.  In historical documents the Rockfield McTernans and the Heapstown McTernans [ Rory's line in the T group baseline ] are called kinsmen and are related via the maternal line with the paternal link still unknown.

4. Understand the meaning of the 4,000 year old Cairn   located on Rory's Heapstown family estate. What might be the connection to Rory's McTernan family who are in the T Group baseline.

5. The McTernan School: located in Waterbury, CT.  In 2005, St. Margaret's-McTernan school changed its name to Chase Collegiate School. The new name honors the Chase family, which helped to found both St. Margaret's and the McTernan School.  Charles McTernan from Foxbourgh, MA founded the school.  Male line may descend from Charles' uncle, Patrick, 1863--,  who was born in Boston.  Charles' son Donald married and lived in France having two daughters.  This family originally immigrated to the Boston area from Co Leitrim. Long shot for DNA match.

6. Private Patrick McTiernan, --2-1858, service number 3755 Private in the 34th Foot (Cumberland Regiment) was wounded in the final attack on the Redan in the Crimean War and also served in the Indian Mutiny of 1857. Awarded the Indian Mutiny Medal: The Indian Mutiny Medal was a campaign medal approved in 1858, for issue to officers and men of British and Indian units who served in operations in suppression of the Indian Mutiny. He died along the Gangis River in February 1858.  His Army records state that he was from Co Leitrim and his wife's name was Jane. To  what family does he belong ?

7. Private John McTiernan, --6-3-1876, Private in the 88th Foot (1st Cannaught Rangers)  fought in the Indian Mutiny of 1857 in the battle of Central India and awarded the Indian Mutiny Medal.  Central India battle: January - June 1858. Awarded to all those who served under Major-General Sir Hugh Rose in actions against Jhansi, Kalpi, and Gwalior. Also awarded to those who served with Major-General Roberts in the Rajputana Field Force and Major-General Whitlock of the Madras Column, between January and June 1858. To what family does he belong ?

8.  Sgt. Patrick McTiernan, --<1911, a soldier in the British Army, 3rd Leinster Regt of Foot, service ID 5784 serving in India who married about 1894 a girl named Susan, 1865--1929, born in Co Tipperary and died in Co Offaly [Kings].  They had 2 children, Eveleen McTiernan 1897--, born in Co Tipperary and Patrick Larsfield McTiernan, 2-25-1895--, born in Colaba, St. Joseph, Bombay India. In 1901 the family was living at 4  Melsop St in Birr, Co Offaly [Kings County].  In 1903, according to Patrick's will Susan was living in the townland of Birr, Co Offaly. In the 1911 census they lived on 28 Eden St in Birr, Co Offaly.  Sgt. Patrick had a brother named James McTiernan, --11-1900, who died in the Boar War in South Africa.  In the 1911 census  Susan is listed as a widow.  She and both kids were living at 28 Eden St., Birr Urban, Kings county.

9. Jane Aloyaia McTernan, 1888--, born  in Calcutta station, Bengal, India.  To which DNA group does she belong.

10.  Thomas McTiernan, 1883--1893, died at 10 years old at the army station of Mount Abu which is a popular hill station in the Aravalli Range in Sirohi district of Rajasthan state in western India near the border with Gujarat.  There is no mention of his parents in records.

11. Bernardette McTiernan, 1890--1893, most likely the sister of Thomas above.  Died at the army station of Mount Abu which is a popular hill station in the Aravalli Range in Sirohi district of Rajasthan state in western India near the border with Gujarat.  There is no mention of her parents in records.

12. Whereabouts of the McTernan Stone, an excessively heavy round stone thrown by Thomas McTernan known as Long Tom from Ardvoley, the grandfather of John-Rev in the T Group baseline. The stone thereafter was known as the McTernan Stone.  The Stone lies now in the area of Killavoggy.

13. Tirmactiernan, Co. Leitrim on the banks of the Shannon/Erne canal system in South Leitrim.  About 7.1 KM from Carrick on Shannon. Why was it named Tirmactiernan and any connection to any in the DNA test.

14. What might be our connection to Rathmactiernane, a townland in Killoran parish, Co Sligo listed in the Hearth roll of 1665 with Cahill McTanist?

15. A horse by the name of MacTiernan is racing in Dublin for the 2010 to 2012 season.  He is running well, previously owned by Christine Kiernan.  Why did she name the horse MacTiernan ?

16.
Cathal Mac Tigernan was King of West Connacht... died 1059... which means he predates the O'Rourkes. Áed in Gai Bernaig, King of Connacht from 1046 to 1067, had invaded and conquered Maigh Seóla in 1051, blinding its king. Cathal mac Tigernán is the next ruler of the kingdom recorded upon his death in 1059.

17. Origin of the 3 ring forts in the townland of Listernan, Co Cavan and why,  the name which in Gaelic means Ternan's fort ?

18.  So far none of the MacTighernans genetically match either The O'Ruairc or The O'Conor Don

19. The unfinished list of all MacTiernans who were killed or served in their country's armed services the many wars for Freedom starting with the Leitrim Plantation Wars and ending with WW II, http://mctiernan.com/mwardead.htm



Solved so far

19. The pamphlet written in 1845 by James MacTernan, <1815--1855, of the Mount Allen McTernans that settled at Heapstown, in Co. Sligo entitled "An Address to my Fellow Countrymen", in which James claimed descent from Tiernan O'Rourke, Prince of Breffni. Found by John C. McTernan.  This James McTernan also invented a new breed of horse called the Buckshot Chestnut.  This is Rory MacTiernan's family in the T Group baseline.

20.  The McTernan Street in Cambridge, MA, USA formerly Lake St. right outside of County Boston.  This is Myles McTernan's family: Te DNA Group

21.  McTernan Road, Tinderry, NSW, Australia 2626: is named after the pioneering McTernan family of the area, descending from Hugh and Mary McTernan of Michelago of which Scott (AU) & Richard descend in the Ta DNA Group

22. Origin of McTernan Place, Worrigee, NSW, Australia 2540: is probably named after Barney McTernan, Hugh's son who lived down there and had a stagecoach business of which Scott (AU) & Richard descend in the Ta DNA Group

23.  Gwladys McTernan Park,  the mother of Richard in the Ta DNA Group, a park in Naracoorte, South Australia, Australia, named after Gwladys McTernan.

24. Origin of McTiernan Close, Wilsonton, QLD, Australia 4350: probably named after Sir Edward McTiernan who relates to Leo McTiernan in the T3 Group baseline

25.   McTiernan Way, a road in downtown Minto named on 9-2-2013 by the Village of Minto, New Brunswick, Canada after the long history of the family in fire prevention.  This is Michael (CN)'s family in the T DNA Group.

26.  Bartholemew E. McTiernan, 12-11-1877--12-6-1917, born and died in Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada.  Bartholemew, his mother Margaret Gilroy and his wife Frances Caroline Gough were all killed in the famous Halifax explosion which was and still is the largest man made explosion after the atom bomb. Bartholemew is the great grand uncle of Greg McTiernan in the T2 DNA Group.

27. Lac McTiernan, a lake in Quebec, Canada, a 7 hour drive  north of Ottawa and 5 hours north of Montreal.   Lac McTiernan was named after William McTiernan born in Bryson, Canada.  He worked for the Canadian International Paper Company in the early 1930’s. To find out more about this man and his father, David McTiernan, who both worked in the back country of Gatineau River, read the following book, particularly chapters 14 and 15, CRAWFORD, Venetia, et Gunda LAMBTON. The Wildest Rivers – the Oldest Hills : Tales of the Gatineau and Pontiac, Maitland, Ontario: Canadian International Paper Company may have been bought by E B Eddy Company. The family had a home in the Mason Lumber camp operated by the E. B. Eddy Company.  This is Maggie's family in the T Group.

If anyone has any information on any of the remaining unsolved mysteries above please let me know

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